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gold and silver coin will go farther because prices are lower due to the scarcities so i m not sure that this commonly given answer makes any sense at all ii most medieval contemporaries thought that the prime motivation for coinage debasement was to increase mint revenues or profits for the prince munro links that thought to this footnote see the comment of nicholas oresme ca 1390 a monetary advisor to king charles vi of france and to the dukes of burgundy i am of the opinion that the main and final cause why the prince pretends to the power of altering the coinage is the profit or gain he can get from it it would otherwise be vain to make so many and so great changes so since medieval times at least it has been commonly thought that governments debase currency for their own gain otherwise says oresme it would be pointless to debase the currency so frequently that s not really a strong argument oresme s argument it s like people today who say the only explanation is and then tell you their favorite explanation people say that kind of thing all the time but that doesn t make it a good argument iv the chief object of debasement when this fiscal motive was present was to encourage merchants foreign and domestic to bring more gold and or silver bullion to the prince s mints rather than to foreign mints and debasements did so by offering such merchants themselves a profit by returning to them more coins of the same face value and current purchasing power though with a reduced precious metal content than they would receive from bullion minted by the former coin standard people since medieval times thought debasement was common because governments did it for their own profit professor munro presents a different motive to enhance the profit of the merchants this is quite an interesting thought if the reason for debasement was to enhance the local economy not just the princely greed posted by the arthurian at 4 00 am 6 comments labels coinage wednesday april 29 2015 i think i m just finessing an idea i only know what i know perhaps it is only ignorance that allows me sometimes to object to the wisdom of people who know more than i so be it then i liked immediately the archive page i found the other day john munro s page i liked it i still like it but i stumbled on this on the different means of payment in the medieval and early modern european economies at the same time you must realize that coined money was not the sole medium of exchange in medieval europe the sole means of effecting payments you must avoid the common pitfall of supposing that actual coins were used merely because the transaction was recorded in monetary terms in some account book or register these notations represent merely the standard of value function of money actual payment munro says may have occurred by barter or by credit and don t make the common mistake of believing in a mythical rise of a money economy that displaced barter transactions there was always from greco roman times some form of a money economy utilizing coinage and conversely barter transactions continued on into modern times even in sophisticated economies thus the following still popular stage theory of economic development advanced by 19th century german economic historians in particular bruno hildebrand deeply influenced by current evolutionary theories is patently unhistorical barter economy coined money economy credit economy according to john munro the stage theory of economic development barter coined money credit the stage theory is patently unhistorical but things lead to other things things have consequences and things have causes i m not afraid to say it oh most people say it sure but they leave it at that when things lead to other things sequences arise and patterns emerge in particular if human nature changes little then we are likely to find repeating sequences and repeating patterns throughout history i think if somebody saw a barter coined money credit sequence in history well that fits with things i already know about the cycle of civilization so i am willing to accept that that sequence probably did happen i don t reject it outright as munro seems to do of course barter continues in modern times of course there was coinage in use in the age of barter of course we don t stop using money because it s the age of barter we ll be glad to use money if we can get our hands on it but if we can t well there is still barter we don t rely less on money because it s the age of barter it is the age of barter because we rely less on money so anyway i was going to leave it at that but i can t because i kept reading professor munro s archive page and i came upon this c factors producing the new silver and then gold coinages i greater commercialization of the economy with a vastly increased volume of money payments transactions demand for money see after the age of barter there was a vastly increased volume of money payments less barter more coin there was a change in emphasis a move away from barter a move toward coined money and this e reasons for the resumption of gold coinages in the west i the vast increase in the volume of money payments and transactions demand for money professor munro confirms the view that there was a transition from a less coined money economy to a more coined money economy later of course there was the transition from mostly coined money to mostly credit posted by the arthurian at 4 00 am 0 comments tuesday april 28 2015 from the archives of john munro there are two fundamental causes of madness amongst students sexual frustration and the study of coinage professor karl helleiner posted by the arthurian at 4 00 am 1 comments monday april 27 2015 finance and the ceteris paribus economy while reading kenneth rogoff s vox piece on the debt supercycle i noticed in the sidebar a link to a historical look at deflation with claudio borio s name attached i ve looked at borio s work on financial cycles before so i was interested finishing up my response to rogoff i dove into the deflation article here are the opening paragraphs concerns about deflation falling prices of goods and services have loomed large in recent policy discussions see e g cochrane 2014 muellbauer 2014 the economist 2015 the debate is shaped by the deep seated view that deflation regardless of context is an economic pathology that stands in the way of any sustainable and strong expansion however the almost reflexive association between deflation and economic weakness is not so obvious seen as a symptom deflation need not only arise from an aggregate demand shortfall but also from greater supply which would boost output and seen as a cause while it may be damaging by pushing up real wages and unemployment raising the real value of debt debt deflation or inducing consumers to delay spending it may also be beneficial by raising real incomes and wealth and making export goods more competitive the cost of deflation is ultimately an empirical question five words went off in my brain like fireworks making export goods more competitive i don t know really how that works if deflation makes the dollar stronger that affects exchange rates and makes us exports more expensive i m sure there are trade offs but they use those five words as if there can be no question that deflation makes exports competitive but before i confused myself with the exchange rate consequences of domestic deflation before that unfinished thought diffused itself like a puff of smoke there were those five words and the fireworks in my head when costs are falling borio et al say that s good for exports by extension then when costs are rising that s bad for exports the mind goes to adam smith to of the component parts of the price of commodities to smith s look at factor costs and the principles that regulate them the mind goes to the cost of finance a cost that competes with smith s wages and profits and rent imagine a stable economy a ceteris paribus 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