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otherwise the 4 virgins are off the table thanks the west continue reading october 20 2006 posted by john gwot philosophy general terrorists 2 comments wild pig savages british nurse why does this sound like a monty python and now for something completely different nurse savaged by giant pig a nurse has spoken of her terror after she was attacked by a giant pig which charged the horse she was riding and then savaged her after she was thrown to the ground suffering from broken ribs from the fall carolyn robinson feared for her life as the enraged pig hurtled at her hurtled the first picture is a representative wild pig but not the assailant the second picture is the victim of the attack continue reading october 14 2006 posted by john british 8 comments republican dissatisfaction with the gwot ace is part right why are conservatives so down on the gop the reasons offered usually are immigration overspending corruption and general political ineptness but i wonder about that at least i wonder about the first three one that s not mentioned as frequently is the war in iraq which i think is more of a factor in conservative disatisfaction that many conservative war supporters are willing to admit perhaps even to themselves good so far i also wonder if the war in iraq has an effect the war isn t going well we expected a fairly quick war and a fairly quick occupation we got the former but definitely not the latter see i differ i don t think the issue is that the war isn t going well i m not sure that any clear thinking person expects perfection or even competence in a war war is a messy business not least because fighting one successfully is at least as much art as science an assymetrical war which the global war on terrorism is at least in part has never really been fought on this scale with this technology there is a learning curve for us that is driven by our enemies but the battle of iraq is certainly not assymetrical at least in its essentials our strategy seems to be to localize the enemy bring him out in the open set the terms of his defeat it is an attempt to negate the assymetrical character of our enemy s tactics and turn this into a war drawn along lines and we have been largely successful enemy deaths are up his ability to wage assymetrical war worldwide is down he has had to concentrate his resources men money materiel in afghanistan iran iraq and syria he has had to fight pitched battles in fallujah kirkuk mosul where for a period of time we could engage the enemy out in the open or out in the streets where america is stronger faster and better for all of this the enemy is stubborn resourceful and has a deep bench when the insurgency in iraq ran dry with the locals they imported it from syria and iran and the phillipines for all their bluster al quaeda and the shi a states of iran and syria bought the premise that iraq is a central battleground in the gwot and they poured in to stop america they didn t have to fight together they were fighting in the same area against a common foe put another way if iraq had been quick it wouldn t have had the chance to be decisive and because it is decisive it simply wasn t going to be quick if iraq had really been over in 3 months the battlefield would have moved perhaps to sudan or somalia perhaps to the phillipines perhaps to pakistan perhaps to indochina perhaps to tunisia or kazakhstan or turkmenistan perhaps even turkey and then the democrats would be crying that we couldn t bring the enemy to the battlefield that we were chasing our tails c so let s be clear both we and our enemies believe that the battle for iraq is central to the gwot everybody agrees except the democrats so this battle is not only decisive in and of itself but to the larger war it is decisive in the same way that midway was decisive the elusive enemy made a strategic calculation and tactical mistake and has suffered losses that are crippling or they should be what didn t happen and what conservatives rinos and republicans are mad about is that we didn t do what was easily within our power to win what we could once we made the battle decisive we have not engaged syria we could have diplomatically or militarily engaged cut off and diminished syria as a threat given that syria was both a base for the insurgency a freeway for hezbollah and a threat to israel this would have been a potential move that would have furthered our regional advantage and brought the war closer to being completed strategically and decisively engaged iran there are many accounts of iran sending insurgents into iraq as early as the summer of 2003 they clearly have pulled syria s and hezbollah s strings they have engaged america and the west by proxy at every opportunity certainly decisive diplomatic or military action was warranted in 2003 when america and iran first started going toe to toe instead we chose to allow the enemy his facade destroyed the iraqi insurgency this was militarily possible by doing one of the above or by curfews or by assassinations or by effective control of iraq we chose to nurse the crippled democratic iraq along letting her have the successes there was a cost destroyed the regional non state actors that are puppets of syria iran etc it was a reasonable expectation that having established an effective beachhead in the region that we would be able to strike at the non state actors therein based in iraq seals and other specops were within striking distance of every major terrorist organization not all of them are hiding in caves in pakistan i bet you could look hezbollah up in a phone book in tehran eliminated the regional non state powers supporting terrorism as threats it was not unreasonable to expect a severe restriction on say the house of saud s support of al quaeda or wahabbiism no matter how unofficial fatah and hamas should have ceased to exist as regional centers for funding the palestinian state should have remained on a wish list until a more apropriate time you can put all of the successes that you want against that list had we or our allies done any two effectively republicans would feel justified in the course of the war people would have accepted as the nature of this war another attack on america as long as we were taking 100 of the enemy to their graves every day we re not talking about democratizing in the short term or about saving israel we are talking about winning patton was right y ou are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight when you here everyone of you were kids you all admired the champion marble player the fastest runner the toughest boxer the big league ball players and the all american football players americans love a winner americans will not tolerate a loser americans despise cowards americans play to win all of the time i wouldn t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed that s why americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war for the very idea of losing is hateful to an american so ace is missing the salient point so i wonder if there s a bit of buyer s remorse here magnifying the gop s failings on other issues due to a possibly unconscious need to lash out at bush for the continuing chaos and violence in iraq it s neither the battle nor the occupation nor the war nor the casualties nor the timeline it is the way that americans are fighting americans fight to win when we are not fighting to win we ask why not when we our leaders who were fighting to win suddenly stop fighting to win they lose our support people would be fine with an extended occupation if we could point and say for example hezbollah ceased to be an effective organization or iran chose to go nuclear iran chose wrong people would have accepted a major strategic initiative in the phillipines or in the tri_border area if it had been to engage the terrorists decisively to win americans would have supported greater intrusion in american phone records and bank accounts if it would have led to arrests convictions incarcerations and executions for treason that would have been decisive people would have been fine with more troops in iraq if it had been to engage the syrian border decisively to win but we are losing or have lost whatever decisive characteristic the battle of iraq had the generals of wwii knew a little more about pr than most people give them credit for macarthur knew that he had to island hop to japan and he told the press that he had to island hop to japan and the people accepted that this was the course of the war and he island hopped to japan it was a long bloody business but it was also goal oriented and decisive when we took iwo jima it was definitively gave america an air base within striking distance of both okinawa and japan people understood that people also understood iraq you could almost sense the good we re taking the fight to the enemy and a hard fight was expected remember the surprise when sadaam s forces collapsed again and people expected an insurgency remember sadaam s hand picked insurgency which we kept hearing about in june and july the fedajeen baathist money was flowing in the country inciting rebellion against the evil imperialists etc we were told to expect the insurgency but we were ready to stay the course to win look at israel this summer remember the sense of relief when hezbollah pulled the trigger ah at last bush will unleash the dogs of war even if only by proxy nope a bunch of people got killed and the only thing people hate more than their war dead are war dead who died in vain i m not saying that iraq was wrong and i m not saying it s wrong now but what was clearly a leap into the heart of the enemy is still going on we re not leaping to the next fight we re not taking the fight to the enemy we re not winning and when you re not winning a war you are losing and americans are simply asking not was iraq right or wrong but are we still fighting to win it s as if bush decided to listen to his critics the daring and determination that we saw in 2001 2002 2003 went away the active impatience with the un was replaced with a quiet acceptance of process the active seeking of the enemy was replaced with a slow churn the supreme court found guantanamo unconstitutional and bush accepted that the ny times found swift subpoenas unconstitutional and bush accepted that and bush reined in rumsfeld who acted decisively he reined in cheney who seemed to steer a decisive path he let frist run the senate and he reined in israel who in our stead could have struck a decisive blow for the west conservatives of all stripes are mad at the republicans because they started acting like a party in power instead of a war party the rest is anecdote and if you want proof watch the newly conservative britain or the resurgent australian administration the conservatives will win in those countries because they are acting like conservatives one more quote by patton sure we want to go home we want this war over with the quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it the quicker they are whipped the quicker we can go home the shortest way home is through berlin and tokyo and when we get to berlin he yelled i am personally going to shoot that paper hanging son of a bitch hitler just like i d shoot a snake october 13 2006 posted by john battle of iran battle of iraq battle of israel gwot 4 comments 300 i ve got to tell you i m jazzed the 300 spartans at thermopylae is being made into a movie based on the epic graphic novel by frank miller 300 is a ferocious retelling of the ancient battle of thermopylae in which king leonidas gerard butler and 300 spartans fought to the death against xerxes and his massive persian army facing insurmountable odds their valor and sacrifice inspire all of greece to unite against their persian enemy drawing a line in the sand for democracy the film brings miller s sin city acclaimed graphic novel to life by combining live action with virtual backgrounds that capture his distinct vision of this ancient historic tale what hollywood lacks in perpective in modern times it makes up for in gangland and in historic epics it s almost as if they re schizo trailer here victor davis hanson s take and it s all good october 11 2006 posted by john art and aesthetic leaders of the west 8 comments lancet debunking redux this lancet crew they have a limited bag of tricks for what it s worth i had an argument on eric raymond s now nearly defunct site here about the october 29 2004 bbc article talking about the original lancet study from the 2004 article dr les roberts who led the study said making conservative assumptions we think that about 100 000 excess deaths or more have happened since the 2003 invasion of iraq violence accounted for most of the excess deaths and air strikes from coalition forces accounted for most of the violent deaths he said his team s work proved it was possible to compile data on public health even during periods of extreme violence the sample included randomly selected households in baghdad basra arbil najaf and karbala as well as falluja lancet editor richard horton said with the admitted benefit of hindsight and from a purely public health perspective it is clear that whatever planning did take place was grievously in error odd no that fallujah and baghdad were included at random that is a very nuanced random on eric s site i mentioned this link from logictimes and it is an excellent precise fisking of the shoddy moralism and methodology exhibited by the lancet authors from the article there is indeed a mind blowing story about collateral damage that needs to be told but that story is one in which we honor the extraordinary achievement of the united states military two years of combat since the fall of baghdad much of it urban warfare with less than 1 000 civilians killed as a result of u s action and it s backed up with statistics methodology all the stuff missing from the lancet report good stuff day by day update more after the bump continue reading october 11 2006 posted by john battle of iraq gwot 1 comment previous entries recent posts remember our heroes dean hawkins this is our entire civilization analogkid can read the future update a conservative in america it is the time of kristalnacht again recent comments kennethstoli on jihadists and terrorists in so edgardep on jihadists and terrorists in so kevinnug on jihadists and terrorists in so konstantincrifs on jihadists and terrorists in so efimben on jihadists and terrorists in so search for blogroll ace ariel s exegesis atlas pamela barone chapomatic claremont inst dave gr dave in texas day by day disturbingly yellow elzbth eric raymond eteraz evangelical outpost feisty gates of vienna gateway pundit goldstein hayzeus hewitt hot air allah michelle innocent bystanders jihad watch spencer kudlow little green footballs malcontent malkin moxie myvastrwc newsbusters nro petitedov politburo diktat powerline purple 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