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e elements from the food taken in from the air so before during and after the rock the cloud the mother the father the embryo there are elements elements are a word for the specific patterning of these atomic particles these atomic particles are patterns of energy little clouds of something nowhere in this did we find any independent existence nowhere in this did we find a collection of separate existences but only formations or patterns or collections of something that exists expressions of something something which seems to be in movement we call that energy that energy is named quark electron that energy that particular movement is called iron and hydrogen and oxygen that movement is called rock and cloud in fact that movement that expression of existence itself is also called me in vedanta the statement is made i am that what i is that is in buddhism they say form is emptiness emptiness is form we might say there is one essence expressing as every thing take a look around you can you find independent existence anywhere isn t that which exists right now knowing itself through this advanced complex mechanism called consciousness isn t the universe now because of this capacity aware of itself aren t you the universe itself isn t identification with this body with this experience ultimately false is there anything you need to do to be that right this very instant posted by randall friend at 9 32 am no comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest thursday october 23 2014 you are that there have been some great questions lately around this idea of existence we might as well talk about the vedanta concepts of mithya and satyam these concepts have the capacity to cut away the delusion of separate thing ness we have a paper cup we all know what that is it is identifiable we may use one every day for our coffee or tea for our water at the cooler but what is that thing if we look at the concept paper cup we might ask a question cup is the noun the thing paper is the adjective it describes the thing so from our common language we have the cup as the thing itself and paper describes the cup but cup isn t really a thing it s a function a purpose a utility a way to hold liquid paper is actually what it is so at this point the thing is paper in a particular shape cup yes we might now call it instead of paper cup cup py paper paper in the shape form and function we call cup so the thing is paper but is paper really what it is well no actually paper is a word we use to talk about the stuff created when we take organic material trees grasses and manipulate them so that they become paper so paper really is that organic material we know in trees and grass and paper but what is that organic material a tree is basically a big plant a plant that has a trunk and some branches it might blossom flowers oranges apples leaves acorns etc it is organic that means basically that it is living material to say it is living material means it is cellular it is composed of various cells that give it the ability to interact with it s environment to grow etc but what is a cell a cell is the basic component of any organism it is a mass of molecules the chemistry of which the electrical charge of which enables this cell to grow to reproduce to interact with the surrounding cells these molecules are masses of two or more atoms bound together by chemical and reactions and atoms are even more refined things they are protons and neutrons surrounded by an electrical charge electrons mostly empty space yet the unique makeup of each atom the unique formation of the protons neutrons and number of electrons make one atom distinct from another the atomic weight or makeup is the difference between a puff of helium and a gram of iron so let s step back and restate this there is some substance of which the atom is made the proton of the helium and the proton of the iron are not really different it is instead the unique configuration of these pieces and the number of electrons or electrical charge that creates the difference helium or iron yes if i take the proton out of the helium atom and the proton out of the iron atom what is the difference if i compare the electron of the helium atom to the electron of the iron atom what is the difference it s really the number of electrons the behavior and how all those pieces interact which makes the eventual form helium and iron at that level of experience they are vastly different yet at the level of the atom they are really quite the same in fact at this point we might wonder what is the substance of the atomic pieces we are really in this exercise trying to find where is the distinct existences in these things at what point did they come into existence we can now rightly say atom is helium atom is iron atom is tree atom is paper atom is cup at the same time we see cup we are seeing atom we don t have atom then that disappears once cup arrives the cup is simultaneously atom and paper so along the way we had some carbon elements some hydrogen some nitrogen all these were there and still are when it was tree and now while it is paper cup the same stuff is there only that stuff is shaped differently formed differently it s still the same thing in essence so what is that substance from the atom we must go to the sub atomic level the level of quantum physics physics basically describes the way things behave we can t really see what the atom is at that level yet we can only derive theories around the behavior then give those hypothetical sub components a name quarks strings etc we suppose that what the atom is is a series of quarks and strings what those quarks and strings are we aren t sure but at this point we must stop and ask each time we dive into what that thing is we find a way to give it s components some names yet the quantum string and the paper cup are one and the same it isn t a quark now and then later becomes a cup it is simultaneously quark and cup we see the cup a quantum microscope might see the quark when it looks at the cup so what that thing is is not dependent on it s form or shape or function it is not dependent on the present experience of that thing in other words what that thing is to someone looking with eyes is cup what that thing is to someone with a quantum microscope is a quark or a mass of quarks and strings which are also atoms neutrons and electrons which are also molecules also cells also trees also paper when you re looking at the world you can only see what your senses have the capacity to see your eyes are not quantum lenses therefore you don t see the quarks yet right in front of you is a trillion trillion trillion quarks you just see what those quarks are on the level of eyes on the level of consciousness so in a way our senses fool us we take the world at surface we take that pencil as something separate from the chair we take the cheeseburger as separate from your watch what we believe our idea of reality is that it is made up of an infinite number of things watches and cheeseburgers and chairs and pencils and cups and trees we forget that those things are only watches and cheeseburgers and chairs and pencils and cups and trees from the perspective of our experience our sensory capacity they are also simultaneously cells molecules atoms quarks strings but what are those things in essence we have broken down every thing in the universe basically to the quantum level to quarks and strings but even a quark and string must be something if our analysis holds true a quark or string must really just be another level of experience another form ation of something something which we have yet to discover through science yet we really can t deny at this point that something smaller must be there the quantum material must have those components what the quark and string really are in essence let s say in 10 years we discover that the quark is made up of jibjabs and knickerdoodles so is that it are we done jibjabs and knickerdoodles must be the source of existence right no because once again we must find out what a jibjab and a knickerdoodle really is in essence because now we know that a thing is just an appearance or expression based on the level of the ability to experience a jibjab is also a cup yes we can continue like this forever at some point we run out of experience able things we basically have this empty space which is behaving in ways that we can later identify as some thing electron moves slow and we have iron electron moves fast and we have helium but electron is basically space with an electric charge so that eventual thing ness is really just the way space is behaving can we say that again isn t that thing the cup or tree or pencil or ham sandwich isn t that thing in essence just there due to the way space is behaving once again let s step back look around you look at all the things in your experience there is a cup a pencil a computer screen a chair a wall that wall is space behaving in a way that appears solid that appears a certain color shape size yet wall is molecules atoms quarks jibjabs whatever else we might conceive to describe all the subsequent ways that space is behaving yet we must consider that we have falsely applied separate thing ness to that wall as if that wall was born as if that wall came about independently as if that wall has some separate existence somewhere from this analysis can you identify where that separate existence is at what level would it be really the existence of wall is what that wall really is when we boil it down this way we must say that wall really is space behaving in a particular way as to appear as wall to our present ability to experience it well that would be very difficult to use in a sentence yet isn t that really what that thing is isn t that what the pencil is the paper the tree the ham sandwich this is a long way to go to talk about mithya so mithya says that any thing we can know does not exist on it s own but has dependent existence wall doesn t exist by itself molecule doesn t exist by itself it is atom proton neutron electron atom doesn t exist by itself it is quark string and so on quarks and strings are really the way space is behaving the way space and the energy of that space is moving or behaving there isn t one thing here acting upon another thing each having it s own existence it is one thing in expression those expressions are quarks those quarks are atoms those atoms are molecules those molecules are cells those cells are cups and pencils and everything else cup is mithya pencil is mithya that which has no existence of its own that which has dependent existence satyam is what is well we never really could define what that root essence is yet we might say that any identifiable thing in our analysis can t be it we can use the concept of space in expression maybe limitless space or no thing ness whatever that is which exists once again we must step back existence is both the limitless and the pencil because they are really the same thing existence is both the limitless and the ham sandwich why because they both are present right now only available to us through our particular means of knowledge eyes ears taste or through an atomic or quantum microscope vedanta calls spirituality that other means of knowledge really to know what those things are in essence because we don t have a scientific means of knowledge we can only measure what appears to our ability to see it yet all the while we are looking right in the face of that essence we are seeing that limitless ness in expression right now pick up the pencil you are looking at existence in expression we know satyam what is in any thing why because any thing is that whatever that is to say pencil is a separate thing to believe that pencil is a new existence a separate existence something that is subject to birth and death is to overlook this sort of analysis to be caught by our particular means of knowledge to live really in an illusion where things have existence of their own where all things are separate it is to be caught by mithya realization is simply to see through mithya to see the simple truth that things have no real existence no birth or death of their own realization is to see that our experience of a world of things is really an experience of one thing one essence one existence it is an experience of one essence expressing as every thing where does that leave you you are aware of these things so what is aware who is aware if all things are that one essence then you must be that you must be that one essence expressing in a very complex way so as to be aware that means that essence is through this mechanism aware of itself we might say that the universe has become self aware maybe we might say the universe has evolved so that it can look upon itself it can know itself you are that posted by randall friend at 3 11 pm 4 comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest sunday october 19 2014 mirage i am is simply life aware of itself it is only when that i am ness gets mixed up with the particular experience that we have a story of the individual a story of the divided the separated existence at some point we begin to question this story this idea this framework of existence when we ask what am i we begin to pull back the screen we begin to pull back the curtain on that illusion of separated independent existences just to ask what am i is to reject our common idea that each thing comes into existence and later ceases to exist the search then is to start from the unknown to have put aside our present ideas and to start walking into the dark without a flashlight we are trying to find out where existence is split up where it becomes divided we trace back the existences of each thing trying to find any independence of existence in each surprisingly the deeper we look we don t find evidence of separated existence in each but the same existence the same is ness ultimately we can only find one of that that is ness that from which each of these things arise it turns out that each thing is not it s own existence but a form ation or pattern or expression of one existence one essence one indefinable limitless ness this is beyond existence or being beyond this or that beyond any attempts to measure or define beyond all attempts to put our finger on it yet it is undeniable all things are that in essence and the only problem is that we give new existence to the patterns we give the attributes of birth and death to that which really has no birth or death except in that it appears and disappears to us that i am is simply the light of knowing knowing these appearances and disappearances if we apply independent existence to each we must also give that i am ness it s own existence me vs the world yet if we see that these appearances are merely passing expressions of that one essence like waves of one ocean then the necessity to d...