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w to set up a wireless remote control switch for your wood shop dust collector how to make blast gates for your woodworking shop dust collection system how to make brackets to hang pvc pipe for woodworking shop dust collection system how to make round benchdogs projects the ambidextrous grizz ubo workbench the chicken coop cutting board shooting board tool restorations stanley no 4½ greenlee 1 chisel hibernia mortise gauge disston d 8 panel saw tool reviews tool review woodowl overdrive bits older posts london pattern lathe turning tool handles posted on april 10 2019 by jonathan some time ago i wrote about purchasing a full size lathe that was an upgrade from my mini bench top lathe you can see this post here the only lathe tools that i had were the little ones meant for pen turning on the mini lathe i started to look online for a set of lathe tools that would be more suitable for larger turning now i m no turner and i m fairly new to it so i decided that replaceable carbide lathe tools were the right tools for me i know i know pro turners will tell you that these are all just scrapers but i m ok with that i liked the look of the full sized ezwood tools but wow are they expensive one day i was browsing on the woodnet net forums and saw that one of the members was listing for sale lathe tools that he made to order a little further digging revealed that he had his own website where he offers the tools for sale you can see his website here https www ncwoodturningtools com i contacted john to enquire about having a set made to my specifications the prices looked good so i decided to order a complete set and make my own handles i asked john to make the tools with an 8 projection and a 3 shank to mount into the tool handle for an overall length of 11 i noticed on his website that he offered the roughers with either a square straight carbide cutter or a radiused one i wanted one of each as i felt they would both be useful as for the diamond detailer the only one offered had a very small rounded tip at the end of the carbide cutter i asked john if he had any of the kind that come to a fine point but he did not i asked him to make me a second diamond detailer tool but omit the cutter and i would provide my own i suspect that the slightly rounded carbide cutter will be a little more durable and will last longer the fine point diamond detailer will be great for really sharp fine detail but i think it will be very easy to break off the tip i ll have to use it with a light touch in summary here s what i ordered ½ finisher square stainless steel bar with 16mm finisher insert ½ rougher square stainless steel bar with 15mm 2 radius insert ½ rougher square stainless steel bar with 15mm square roughing insert ½ detailer square stainless steel bar with diamond insert ½ detailer square stainless steel bar without diamond insert one replacement carbide insert for each tool john made them over the weekend and shipped them off to me here s what arrived a few days later i took out the carbide cutters in the photo below the lathe tools that were made by john at ncwoodturningtools com time to make some handles i m going to do something a bit unusual here a couple of years ago i wrote about some london pattern chisel handles that i made for some socket chisels you can see those posts here here and here i ve never seen a lathe chisel handle made like this to me this means one of two things either my idea is incredibly stupid and shouldn t be done for good reason or i ve come up with a new idea and i m blazing a new trail i guess time will tell i had a small log in my shop that a neighbor had given to me at the time he told me it was walnut and i stashed it away in my lumber pile a piece of walnut log that a neighbor gave me some years ago i should have painted the end grain as the wood has checked there s plenty of useable material in the middle of the log though i started out on the jointer to get a flat face and followed this up with a rough cut by eye at the bandsaw i then went back to the jointer to square the rough cut up to the first face i ran the flattest side over the jointer next cut was at the bandsaw back to the jointer to clean things up a little that s about as far as i can take it on the jointer at this stage it was easy to process the log into boards cutting the log into some nice thick planks only the very center of the log looked what i expected to see from walnut this log was the oddest looking walnut that i ve ever seen only a very small part of the log basically right around the pith looked anything like walnut to me now that bit looks like walnut one i had boards i cut them into square billets at the table saw cutting the plank into billets these are ugly and a bit checked but i think i can get enough useable material out of them to make a london pattern handle you first have to make an octagon only then can you proceed to the lathe i started this process with a chamfering bit at the router table turning squares into octagons first pass to refine and even out the 8 facets i continued the process on my drum sander as a little aside here i love the concept of this tool but have never been able to get it to work as perfectly as i would like usually the wood ends up burning and left with scorch marks perhaps i need to buy better paper or simply use a coarser grit to sneak up a good octagon i switched to the drum sander thats got it five octagonal billets at this point i took the five octagonal billets to my cross cut sled and cut off the ends that were split and checked the billets were much longer than i needed so i had plenty of wood to work with the ends were saved for stain testing more on that later as you can see below the only part that looked like walnut ended up on one of the off cuts i cut off all the split ends the chisel handles will need to have a ferrule for added strength i went to my local plumbing supply shop and found these a brass pipe fitting to make the ferrule i figured that i could cut off the smaller part and save it for later in case i ever need a small ferrule for another project i wanted to file off the barbs and the stamped lettering on the fitting before cutting it i thought that the lathe was the best place to do this so i made a jam chuck out of one of the scrap offcuts using an off cut to make a jam chuck for the brass fitting the pipe fits very tightly onto the jam chuck while the lathe is spinning i took a file to the fitting filing off the barbs once the filing was done i proceeded through several grits of sandpaper ending somewhere around 400 after filing i sanded up to 400 i like the finish i used a hacksaw to separate the two ferrules cutting off the smaller part the end is a bit rough i cleaned up the freshly cut ends with files and sandpaper here s what i was left with before and after five fittings for this project and five others not shown for another day time to mount one of the billets in the lathe and make a handle i first reduced the diameter of one end until the ferrule would just tap on tightly i mounted the handle blank in the lathe and turned down one end until the ferrule fit the next part was the most difficult boring the ½ hole in the end of the handle for the tang to fit into i think this would have been a lot easier if i had a steady rest that i could have installed around the ferrule it would have kept things perfectly centered since i don t own a steady rest i bored a ¼ hole first and then the ½ bit would follow the pilot hole without wandering i don t think there are any commercially available steady rests for my lathe as it has a very high depth over bed i think i ll have to make one someday another project to add to the to do list drilling out the hole for the tang with the tang hole drilled i could finally turn the design turning the sweep behind the ferrule i then turned a round on the tail end here s how it looked in the end here s the handle when done with the turning i think the handle came out pretty close to my original plan five handles after sanding a couple of years ago my local hardware store was having a clear out and was selling watco danish oil for about 2 a can i bought one of each color but it was a bit of a waste as i really only like the plain and the red mahogany the others have just sat in the cupboard i didn t like the look of this weird white walnut so i decided to get out the various colors and do some experiments from left to right golden oak fruitwood red mahogany medium walnut dark walnut and black walnut also there s a tin of mahogany gelatin at the end testing some color options closer view the others i like these sort of i wasn t in love with any of the finishes so i had the idea of trying the gel stain applied on top of the danish oil there were two combinations that i liked mahogany gel stain over red mahogany danish oil red mahogany gel stain over black walnut danish oil since these are supposed to be walnut i decided to go with the darker combination black walnut with a little red added over the top i took some scrap from the firewood pile and made a quick drying stand for applying the finishes getting ready to stain here you can see the black walnut danish oil going on i ve written plenty in the past about applying danish oil so i won t go over it in depth in short it is applied liberally and left to soak in adding more as needed an hour or so later all the excess is thoroughly wiped off and the finish is left to cure for at least a day a week is better the black walnut danish oil gel stain is interesting you wipe it on let it sit for a while and then wipe off as much as is appealing to you if you wipe really hard just about all of it will come off if you hardly wipe at all the part will looked painted and most of the grain will be obscured in the below image the first handle on the right had gel stain applied and wiped off you can see how it adds a reddish warmth to the piece red mahogany gel stain applied a few days later gel stain done i left the gel stain to dry for a few days and then applied two coats of gloss wipe on poly i m not thrilled with how this turned out and think it would have been better sprayed but as i don t have a sprayer this will do after two coats i lightly sanded with 320 grit i sanded a little too much in a couple of places but nothing too noticeable sanding after two coats of polyurethane for the final coat i used satin wipe on poly you only want to use this on your final coat and gloss for the earlier coats the flatteners in the satin will muddy the look of the grain if you use it for all three coats a final coat of satin poly i just realized that in some of these images the handles look drastically longer or shorter than each other they re not they re just leaning away from the camera at wildly varying angles i m happy with the final look with this done it was time to install the tools in their handles i had planed to do this with epoxy but three of the five handles were so tight that i didn t need it i added a little epoxy to the other two i then reinstalled the carbide cutters that i had removed for safety while making the handles i think the ferrules look great the finished set these came out better than i had hoped summary and lessons learned i m really happy with these lathe tools the best part is that all of this cost less that a single full sized ez wood tool would have set me back john at nc woodturning tools did a great job and you can t beat the price sorry if this sounds like an advert it s not i m just really happy with my purchase that said they re not perfect the thing that i struggled with the most was turning the sweep on the handle they re not as curvy or as aggressive as i would have liked look at my socket chisel ones they re much prettier the design flaw if you can call it that was that the metal tang runs through the thinnest part of the handle on a socket chisel this isn t an issue if i would have made the sweep narrower at is thinnest point as i would have liked to do for aesthetics then i would have risked making the wood around the tang so thin that it could break if i had it to do all over again i d change one important thing i would have ordered the tools with 6 tangs i know that sounds extreme but it would have buried the tang way back into the solid octagonal part of the handle and i could have made the neck thinner i m not likely to ever make these again but i figured that i d include this little tip incase you decide to have a go at making them in the next post i ll make a box for storing the lathe chisels jonathan white posted in shop projects tagged danish oil lathe walnut 10 comments older posts subscribe to blog via email enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email email address subscribe join 269 other subscribers this blog and many other great woodworking blogs can be found on click the below images to go to these sites and 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