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7 robert red manley a salesman for a pipe clamp company surrendered to police after returning from a sales trip to san francisco until he returned to los angeles he was unaware that police were looking for him red manley being frisked prior to being held for questioning in the black dahlia case photo is courtesy of lapl he willingly submitted to a lie detector test but the results were confused manley was so exhausted from the trip and the stress that it made it impossible to get a reliable reading captain donohoe said we ll try again later he s tired out now and so are we manley s wife harriet met him at the jail before he was booked heads together they spoke quietly he had a lot of explaining to do and not just to the police because of her police connections evening herald express reporter agness aggie underwood scored an exclusive interview with manley underwood was known to police as a reporter with the instincts of a veteran investigator she had a reputation for solving cases police respected and trusted her when she entered the interview room she intuitively knew how to begin she said to him you look as though you ve been on a drunk manley replied this is worse than any drunk i ve ever been on i ll never pick up another dame as long as i live good news for harriet but not enough to convince police underwood continued the interview manley told her about picking beth up on the street in san diego and then he made the most surprising admission he said i decided to pick her up and make a test for myself and see if i loved my wife or not the test was simple if he didn t succumb to the charms of the dark haired beauty then his marriage was meant to be it was a crackpot idea one that suggests a man already searching for an exit at 25 his life was not what he had planned he was a musician he played in an army band and stayed in the u s for the duration he would rather have pursued music but instead found himself a married salesman with a four month old child he told underwood about their uneventful night at a pacific beach motel he described their arrival in downtown los angeles on january 9 th he said beth asked him to take her to the greyhound bus station so she could check her bags before meeting her sister he asked where she was going to meet her and without waiting for an answer he said the biltmore she said yes biltmore hotel at 5th and olive it was a lie her nearest sister virginia lived with her husband hundreds of miles north in oakland it seems likely beth was eager to rid herself of her traveling companion and hustle a place to spend the night manley waited with her in the lobby of the biltmore for a long time before he finally said he had to leave beth told him she had to wait he told underwood that is the last time i saw betty short i ll take the truth serum or anything they want to give me and i ll swear on a stack of bibles and tell my minister too that was the last time i ever saw betty short i did not kill her posted in uncategorized 2 replies black dahlia identified posted on january 23 2026 by deranged reply the lapd was frustrated in its attempt to send jane doe 1 s fingerprints to the fbi in d c a massive snowstorm had grounded aircraft and it would take days for the affected areas to clear the hearst owned examiner offered lapd a workaround the paper had a soundphoto an early facsimile fax machine they had never used it to transmit fingerprints but felt it could be done they agreed to send the victim s fingerprints to the fbi in exchange for exclusives in the case knowing the investigation could not formally begin without an identification lapd captain jack donohoe agreed to the arrangement the fbi identified the prints as belonging to elizabeth short a 22 year old massachusetts native santa barbara police arrested her for underage drinking at a local restaurant in 1943 when she worked at the camp cooke px and there was a mugshot beth short mugshot by january 17 the hauntingly beautiful mugshot was on the front page of newspapers across the country her mother phoebe short and three of her sisters who still lived in massachusetts arrived in los angeles to attend the inquest her sister virginia and virginia s husband came from oakland it was a grim reunion beth s father cleo refused to identify his daughter he wanted nothing to do with her the family or the murder to spare phoebe and beth s sisters virginia s husband confirmed beth s identity at the morgue a murder victim especially a beautiful young woman dies twice first at the hands of her killer next in the newspapers the daily news reported that homicide detectives were probing beth s reckless career that ended under a sadist s knife the judgement was unmistakable beth s reckless career made her complicit no one beat slaughtered and dumped nice girls like garbage described as popular beth and her girlfriends were often seen in hollywood night spots in the company of servicemen it wasn t an explicit condemnation of her lifestyle it didn t have to be round ups of sex offenders and other shady characters police believed might be responsible for the murder yielded nothing of value however they got information that beth was last seen with a handsome red headed man the man had picked her up at the french home in pacific beach on january 8 th he had dated her a few times while she stayed there he answered to bill or red no one knew anything more to detectives he may have been the last person to see beth alive they had beth s name and they also had a nickname the black dahlia during the summer of 1946 a movie starring alan ladd veronica lake and william bendix titled the blue dahlia played around town she got the nickname from acquaintances in long beach she frequently wore black and sometimes tucked a large flower behind her ear los angeles has a history of murders named after flowers gardenia orchid red rose now it added black dahlia to the deadly bouquet for background on beth detectives talked to former roommates and others who knew her and might be familiar with her habits lynn martin 16 going on 30 and marjorie graham 24 lived with beth in hollywood they may have lived with her but they knew little about her private life tracking beth s movements in post war los angeles presented a unique challenge the war had ended almost 18 months earlier but the housing shortage remained critical if you didn t have a fixed address you could stay in a hotel for only 5 days people were constantly on the move the population skewed young and transient veterans mentally broken by their war experiences drank in the same clubs as beth and her friends the city was more dangerous than they knew it could have been any of them who ended up dead in a vacant lot but a monster chose beth next time the red haired man surrenders posted in uncategorized leave a reply black dahlia corpse in the weeds posted on january 16 2026 by deranged reply mrs betty bersinger and her three year old daughter anne walked south down norton avenue in leimert park a still growing los angeles suburb they d left their home at 3705 s norton to take a pair of shoes to be repaired betty bersinger like much of postwar l a norton was only half formed wartime shortages had stalled housing construction and the neighborhood was still catching up it was january 15 1947 around 10 30 a m when betty and anne approached a large vacant lot in the 3900 block of norton something pale caught betty s eye in the weeds about fifty feet from a fire hydrant and just a foot from the sidewalk it looked like a discarded mannequin or a woman lying very still as they drew closer betty realized it was neither mannequin nor drunk it was a woman nude pale and cut in half she grabbed anne and ran to the nearest home to call police over the years several reporters have elbowed their way into the legend each claiming to be the first at the scene one of the loudest was will fowler fowler said he and photographer felix paegel of the examiner were near crenshaw boulevard when a call came crackling over the shortwave the report was bizarre a naked woman possibly drunk sprawled in a vacant lot one block east of crenshaw between 39th and coliseum a naked drunk dame passed out in a vacant lot right here in the neighborhood too let s see what it s all about paegel drove as fowler watched for the woman there she is it s a body all right fowler got out of the car and approached the body as paegel pulled his speed graphic from the trunk fowler called out jesus felix this woman s cut in half that was fowler s version and he stuck to it he even claimed to have closed the dead girl s eyes but was any of it true other accounts suggest a reporter from the los angeles times was the first on the scene another contender in her autobiography newspaperwoman herald reporter agness aggie underwood claimed to be the first after nearly eight decades does it matter all those who saw the murdered girl that day saw the same horrifying sight it left an indelible impression aggie underwood on norton january 15 1947 aggie observed it the body had been cut in half through the abdomen under the ribs the two sections were ten or twelve inches apart the arms bent at right angles at the elbows were raised above the shoulders the legs were spread apart there were bruises and cuts on the forehead and the face which had been beaten severely the hair was blood matted front teeth were missing both cheeks were slashed from the corners of the lips almost to the ears the liver hung out of the torso and the entire lower section of the body had been hacked gouged and unprintably desecrated it showed sadism at its most frenzied the coroner recorded the victim as jane doe 1 for 1947 two seasoned lapd detectives harry hansen and finis brown took charge of the investigation during the first twenty four hours officers pulled in over 150 men for questioning the city s most brutal murder had just begun its long descent into legend the most promising of the early suspects was twenty three year old transient cecil french he was busted for molesting women at a downtown bus depot police were alarmed when they discovered french had pulled the back seat out of his car had he concealed a body there police chemist ray pinker found no blood or any other physical evidence of a bloody murder in french s car investigators dropped from him the list of hot suspects in her initial coverage for the herald underwood referred to the case as the werewolf slaying because of the savagery of the mutilations inflicted on the unknown woman the werewolf tag would identify the case until a better one came along the black dahlia next time jane doe 1 gets a name and a past references fowler will 1991 reporters memoirs of a young newspaperman gilmore john 2001 severed the true story of the black dahlia murder harnisch larry a slaying cloaked in mystery and myths los angeles times january 6 1997 underwood agness 1949 newspaperwoman wagner rob leicester 2000 the rise and fall of los angeles newspapers 1920 1962 posted in 1940s unsolved crimes of los angeles tagged 1947 agness aggie underwood anne bersinger betty bersinger black dahlia decil french felix paegel finis brown harry hansen jane doe 1 ray pinker will fowler leave a reply the hillside strangler mgm docuseries posted on january 15 2026 by deranged reply i was interviewed over the summer for this four part docuseries the hillside strangler case was one of the worst in los angeles history one of the killers angelo buono died in prison in 2002 his cousin and accomplice kenneth bianchi remains in prison may he rot the most important names to remember are those of their victims yolanda washington judity miller lissa kastin delores cepeda and sonja johnson kristina weckler evelyn jame king lauren wagner kimberly martin cindy hudspeth here is the trailer posted in 1970s homicide los angeles county tagged 1977 1978 angelo buono cindy hudspeth delores cepeda evelyn jame king judity miller kenneth bianchi kimberly martin kristina weckler lauren wagner lissa kastin sonja johnson yolanda washington leave a reply black dahlia the missing week january 9 january 15 1947 posted on january 15 2026 by deranged reply after hours of small talk in the biltmore hotel lobby robert red manley finally left beth short he had been out of touch with his wife harriet for a few days it was time to go home biltmore hotel at 5th and olive she told him she d be fine her sister was coming a lie one of many she d told red since december at 6 p m on january 9 1947 beth left the biltmore lobby navigated her way through guests and luggage to olive street she turned right she turned right whatever money she had none of it was going to public transit otherwise she would have turned left and gone to the nearby subway terminal building darkness had settled streetlights spilled pale circles across the pavement streetcars clanged buses sighed snatches of conversation carried further in the chill winter air for the first block she walked against pedestrian traffic office workers streamed out onto the sidewalk men with hats pulled low coats buttoned tight heading toward the subway terminal building subway terminal los angeles from 5 th to 6 th streets beth encountered the usual post war mix of bellmen traveling salesmen secretaries and servicemen the air smelled of diesel exhaust coffee diner food damp concrete and cigarette smoke few women walked along those who did moved with purpose beth had a destination in mind hollywood would be the best place for her to find an acquaintance who could put her up for the night or suggest a place where she could find a bunk bed for a dollar a night if she didn t have enough for more than a night or two she could vanish down an exterior fire escape she had done it before continuing down olive street between 6 th and 7 th she would pass professional buildings insurance offices and small law firms several luncheon cafes offered sandwiches pie and weak coffee foot traffic thinned out past 7 th the quiet edge of the street with anonymous storefronts and upper floor offices several bars dotted the street none were rowdy just quiet places to grab an end of the day cocktail did beth stop in at the crown grill at 8 th and olive there have been no definitive sightings of her there on january 9 th she had lunched at the grill with a friend and the friend s married lover a few times crown grille at 8th olive it isn t unreasonable to assume she poked her head in seeking a familiar face one of the bartenders once drove beth up to mulholland where they necked nothing more if he had been behind the bar she might have asked him for a dollar or two or a ride beth didn t walk eight miles to hollywood that much is certain ai generated image of woman walking on olive street did her killer encounter her at the crown grill or did he stop and offer her a ride as she walked along olive faced with a long cold walk beth would have accepted she may have played it 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