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me months later and polled them on their political views to see how much they had shifted http www amazon com left turn liberal distorts american dp 0312555938 dr tim groseclose a professor of political science and economics at ucla has spent years constructing precise quantitative measures of the slant of media outlets he does this by measuring the political content of news as a way to measure the pq or political quotient of voters and politicians among his conclusions are all mainstream media outlets have a liberal bias and while some supposedly conservative outlets such the washington times or fox news special report do lean right their conservative bias is less than the liberal bias of most mainstream outlets groseclose contends that the general leftward bias of the media has shifted the pq of the average american by about 20 points on a scale of 100 the difference between the current political views of the average american and the political views of the average resident of orange county california or salt lake county utah with left turn readers can easily calculate their own pq to decide for themselves if the bias exists this timely much needed study brings fact to this often overheated debate i m no conservative but i loved left turn tim groseclose has written the best kind of book one that is firmly anchored in rigorous academic research but is still so much fun to read that it is hard to put down liberals will not like the conclusions of this book which in my opinion is all the more reason why they should want to read it steven levitt professor of economics university of chicago and co author of freakonomics this book an evolution from the pioneering article in the 2005 quarterly journal of economics by groseclose and jeffrey milyo uses a clever statistical technique to construct an objective measure of conservative or liberal bias in news coverage this method and those now adopted by other serious researchers show clearly that most u s news outlets lean left most frighteningly we learn that the media bias actually affects the ways that people think and vote robert barro professor of economics harvard university and senior fellow hoover institution video of dr groseclose on lou dobbs http video foxbusiness com v 1083158772001 do all mainstream media outlets have a liberal bias washington times the conclusions draw upon recent studies by some highly respected economists and political scientists for instance one study conducted by yale researchers alan gerber dean karlan and daniel bergan is akin to a biology experiment to one set of randomly selected voters in northern virginia the researchers gave trial subscriptions to the washington post to another set they gave trial subscriptions to the washington times after the subsequent election the researchers polled their subjects and found that their post subscribing subjects voted for the democrat at a 3 8 percentage higher rate than did the times subscribing subjects that is the more liberal newspaper truly seemed to cause people to vote more liberally after aggregating the results of this and similar studies one finds an inescapable conclusion newspapers television radio and online media are extremely influential especially over consumers political views for example the results imply that if the slant quotient of the entire media moved 34 points leftward approximately the difference between fox news special report and the new york times then the political quotient of the average voter would move about 24 points leftward the latter shift is approximately the difference between the average voter in colorado or iowa and the average voter in rhode island or massachusetts if the analysis is right that media bias really does change political views so significantly then this no doubt has some important and largely unrecognized consequences posted in chuck norton journalism is dead leave a comment more on that budget deal moderates vs conservatives posted by iusbvision on august 2 2011 be sure to see our previous post here it is always painful when people who call themselves conservative buy into the elite media narrative or want to place party leadership on a pedestal so bad that they make arguments that they would normally never make from today s drudge report msnbc hosts unanimously predict obama s re election palin bachmann rip biden for calling tea partiers terrorists reid rise of tea party very very disconcerting now watch as this republican parrots some of this same spin my original comment what i find interesting is that any plan that would actually have a real chance of preserving our aaa credit rating was painted as extreme we should not let pundits move the overton window and decide what is extreme and what is not there will be many impacts to losing aaa including the us govt having to pay so much more interest on the debt every year that the savings from debt ceiling agreement to only increase spending by 7 4 trillion over the next ten years instead of the base line 9 5 trillion will be used up losing aaa will also cause more economic suffering for the average person marco rubio said that his line in the sand is to have a solution that actually fixes the problem when preserving our aaa credit is considered extreme there is something very wrong with someone s perceptions person suckered in by the elite media spin responds to the above economics trump any all talking heads forms my opinion on domestic fiscal policy in my world anything more than 4 in cuts at a time most certainly would cause more recession possibly depression note notice that this is a classic far left krugman keynes position and she doesn t realize it the libertearians want one extreme too many cuts all at once the democrats want the polar opposite extreme no cuts more taxes that s extreme to center right america reality when the government cut spending drastically under calvin coolidge warren harding it helped us out of the depression of 1920 also when the governmment cut spending by 50 in 1947 from 1945 levels the economy boomed also conversely look at the 80 increase in federal spending just since fy 2008 and look at the economic performance and look at the economic performance under the new deal which was a total fail as non farm unemployment never dropped below 20 during the new deal look at welfare reform and the reductions in spending growth that happened with the john kasich budgets under bill clinton the economy improved again as well your premise based on outdated neo keynsian theory is falsified by history the reason why government increases in spending do not have the desired keynesian effect is the same reason that reductions in govt spending do not have the predicted keynesian impact and that is because govt does not spend money for the purpose of economic impact or to aid the market where it needs aid the most politicians spend money for the purpose of political impact this is why you see things in econ textbooks such as okun s leaky bucket theory and why government spending tends to result in a very low velocity of money supporting link person suckered in by the elite media spin your pedantic tendencies are showing again i am most certainly not a keynesian i m with paul ryan charles krauthammer note paul ryan charles krauthammer never said that cutting spending would cause a depression paul krugman says it every day reality that is great name calling but that isn t an argument i also support paul ryan for someone who claims not to be a keynesian you did a a great job of giving the typical krugman keynes argument how many in 2010 got elected on taking the position that we should go back to 2008 spending levels 2008 spending levels would still increase the yearly deficits by almost half a trillion a year so that is not a cut nor is that even a spending freeze it is just a reduction in the coming increases so your entire notion that tea party candidates or most new freshman argued for massive cuts is also just factually wrong person suckered in by the elite media spin the fact still remains that tea s expectations exceed their ability to make any large meaningful changes with only controlling the house the ryan plan would never have passed in this climate the smart thing to do is get the best deal that could be passed in a dem controlled senate a dem controlled wh live to fight another day win big in 2012 then only then can the necessary stepos be taken libertea s unrealistic demands damn the torpedos bravado are hindering that goal we can argue about the best next steps forward in january 13 if if if the libertearians don t thwart that most important goal with their divisive bullheaded bravado reality i think you misunderstand my position in part many do not think that we got the best deal i say that because look at what happened in minnesota recently with the government shutdown there it was all doom and gloom the media said that people blamed republicans until the governor caved and the gop s poll numbers went up i think we should have tried to get a little better of a deal for another reason if the dems went passed august 2 and america saw that we would not default and social security checks would indeed go out as the govt brings in almost 200 billion a month on revenue obama would have had egg all over his face and his scare tactics would have blown up in his face i very much understand that we cannot run the govt from just the house but we were timid and operating form a position of fear because of what happened in 1998 i never said all or nothing damn the torpedoes full speed ahead i am just saying that we could have done better my problem is with those who are wiping their feet on this deal to make it look like that the deal is rockin awesome and that those who wanted more are somehow extreme in fact that whole way of looking at it works against us in 2012 we should just admit the truth and say that this was not a very good deal we should explain how the democrats insited on 7 4 trillion in new spending or they would shut everything down how they threatened default and social security when it was unnecessary we should tell people how the democrats insisted on a deal that would not preserve aaa that is a key point what we should not be doing is saying that those who supported a deal that had a chance of preserving aaa are extremists as that undermines our position in 2012 paul krugman is already saying that losing aaa is just fine you are trashing people in the republican base who wanted to save aaa as extreme some tea party people and other conservatives instead of trashing democrats whgo deserve to get trashed and that plays right into obama s hands in 2012 person suckered in by the elite media spin at the most critical of times tea voted with libertarians the democrats voted against the gop making them the rinos they so clamorously hunt that will not be forgotten by the electorate this is a center right nation i do not believe their constituents wanted them to risk turning the country against conservatives for advocating default by having completely unrealistic expectations in the political climate we currently find ourselves working within bulls in a china shop are never welcome regardless of what side of the aisle they come from but i could be wrong we ll see what happens in their reelection bids i suppose note how many important votes has the house voted on a bill or against a bill with the support of the entire party reality hmm lets see bachmann voted for the patriot act allen west just supported the budget deal with that said look at where that tea party bullheadedness has gotten us just a short time ago we were talking about bailouts stimulus perhaps a stimulus ii massive multi trillion dollar health care take overs cap trade etc etc now the discussion is balanced budget amendment how much will be cut entitlement reform and gop stalwarts such as haley barbour are even talking about the ethanol scam and farm subsidy reform in iowa of all places stacy the problem with what you are doing besides that fact that it is helping obama to get re elected is that you have got it in your brain somehow that most tea party folks are these ron paul loonies while the ron paul loonies would like people to think that it just isn t the case as the big polling outfits have polled them and done demograghics on them demonstrate this clearly rasmussen 48 say their views closer to tea party than congress http www rasmussenreport s com public_content polit ics general_politics april _2011 48_say_their_views_c loser_to_tea_party_than_co ngress in the ongoing budget cutting debate in washington some congressional democrats have accused their republican opponents of being held captive by the tea party movement but voters like the tea party more than congress the latest rasmussen reports national telephone survey finds that 48 of likely u s voters say when it comes to the major issues facing the country their views are closer to the average tea party member as opposed to the average member of congress just 22 say their views are closest to those of the average congressman even more 30 aren t sure to see survey question wording click here this shows little change from a survey in late march of last year forty nine percent 49 of voters think the tea party movement is good for the country consistent with findings since may 2010 twenty six percent 26 disagree and say the grassroots small government movement is bad for america sixteen percent 16 say neither person suckered in by the elite media spin that s not to tea s credit but i find it fascinating that they are all about wanting to claim credit as reagan said there is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don t care who gets the credit unfortunately libertea s all about themselves 2010 was a national referendum against failed liberal governance i was happy to have tea join us in making history handing the dems a shellacking until they started acting like libertarians in deed voting with them the democrats in tactics their constant disparaging of the gop rino hunting etc the libertearians went after both west bachmann for those stances too i might add it s their way or assault no thank you note tea party groups are cellular in nature and not all of them agree on every issue as to be expected yet this person takes an elite media report saying that a cell somewhere is unhappy about a vote and all of the sudden in her mind it is all of them the fact is that bachmann and west enjoy broad support rasmussen is laughable note notice no supporting evidence it is not the gop causing the damage divide it is tea how many times has the gop reached out in the spirit of unity to tea only to draw back a nub too many still today credit is being thrown to tea for helping turn the national debate etc yet they still are combative again it is not the gop causing the divide it is the libertearians as is their mo thus far reality than you 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