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th a second game than on an optional transaction in a single game if i m able to win the mount in a contest at stargrace s place however all bets are off as a result i am now the owner of a very blue purple giant glowing cat mount in eq2 as promised the mount offers a 65 speed boost to level 1 characters it also offers small amounts of skill bonuses to either your casting or your melee skills you have to pick one or the other i opted for melee finally the mount item is flagged heirloom which means that it can be passed to other characters on both the same account and same server via the shared bank i didn t think of testing the heirloom feature before getting kicked out of neriak as promised in my contest entry temporarily cutting off my access to the shared account bank though soe appears to be hoping that some people will buy more than one to get the alternate colors and stats i don t think it would be too difficult to pass the one mount off to multiple alts as they need it all that said i ll concede that this mount isn t really all that game changing my alts that do not have inherent runspeed buffs can now travel at 75 speed the mount plus the shadows mount speed aa which is almost as fast as lyriana s dirge buffs only the mount suspends indoors it s a huge step up from not having a mount but i don t think the jump from say a relatively accessible 40 mount would be as impressive if nothing else the big blue kitty has given me the inspiration for a character story background which i ll be working on and posting here in the near future so that s a pretty big win in any case posted by green armadillo at 11 59 pm 3 comments labels business models eq2 mounts pvd sunday june 6 2010 balancing guild rewards ddo s guild airship housing has gone live on the game s test server and players have dug up the list of rewards all of this is obviously very subject to change at the moment the most efficient way to level your guild is to farm kobolds for reknown items in level 1 quests which was not the design intent but we re seeing enough to get some idea of what the trends are going to look like guild rewards are a challenging design area on the one hand players are supposed to want the perks that come with being in higher level guilds otherwise they wouldn t really be rewards on the other hand guild features are supposed to enhance the guild experience and encourage players to form social ties if the perks to guild membership are too substantial the developers risk creating an incentive to leave your guild for the largest least personal guild you can find so long as they have the requisite perks what s on your airship that said the perks in the ddo version don t look that game altering there are the requisite bankers storage boxes auctioneers and teleports but i ve never actually felt that i was really missing these perks in the game as it stands today there are crafting stations used to combine raid drops into raid gear but it seems like players with access to the ingredients should be able to reach the crafting stations as well from what i ve heard the limiting factor is raiding enough to get the materials not actually going to do the crafting finally there are a variety of miscellaneous buffs the most significant of which is an exp bonus that goes as high as 5 these aren t trivial and may be more important for players who are working on the tougher true resurrection exp curve but nothing i d panic over missing out on i m still a bit concerned that the system as is heavily favors large guilds which appear to have more rapid access to the most powerful rewards even so if you look by comparison to eq2 where guild rewards include teleportation to multiple locations in every zone in the game and the complete elimination of the need to harvest as a prerequisite for crafting ddo s rewards don t feel overly game defining choices for guilds on the plus side low key rewards also mean that ddo guild leaders dodge a bullet in terms of deciding what to put in their guild s limited amenity and crew slots on their airship if there s one thing that concerns me about wow s upcoming cataclysm it s the guild talent point system eq2 s rewards are massively significant but there aren t that many of them so even a small guild can quickly obtain the most game affecting ones if wow s housing less take on this type of system features more choices and some of the choices force guilds to choose between say raiding and leveling alts that could have some very unfortunate effects on guilds who makes that kind of choices the officers the whole membership the members who contribute most to guild leveling exp these are tough questions that could make guild features more divisive than beneficial posted by green armadillo at 10 05 pm 3 comments labels baseless speculation ddo eq2 pvd social wow saturday june 5 2010 examining f2p lotro so lord of the rings online is apparently going free to play given how satisfied turbine has been with ddo s shift to that payment model it was probably only a matter of time before they found a way to make it work for lotro key information available so far include a chart of f2p vs subscription benefits and a compliation of forum question and answers what have we learned so far trying to close the free leveling loopholes unlike the heavily instanced ddo lotro has a seamless non zoned open world like wow i d thought that this would be the largest obstacle to taking the game free to play for example how would you even get to angmar if you didn t already own the north downs to address this problem turbine is going with an odd compromise players will be able to travel through the entire shadows of angmar world regardless of subscription status instead all of the quests in a given zone will be bundled together into quest packs all players will get the three newbie zones good for levels 1 15 or so but will need to pay to get the quests from level 16 50 it is not yet clear whether this includes the deeds in any given region such as explorer and kill deeds there are several quirks to this model first it sounds like there will not be a level cap on free players if you want to grind mobs for exp you ll be able to to counter this only vip s subscribers will be allowed to get rested exp in my experience it s relatively hard to run out of rested exp in lotro so that s basically a 50 nerf to combat exp skirmishes would be another loophole so turbine will be limiting free players to four of the game s pre mirkwood skirmishes the last issue is the previously paid expansions there s no helping this one if you re turbine players have already paid expansion fees for no purpose other than access to the content and expansion owners will therefore be granted permanent f2p access to the relevant content the odd result is that players who own moria and mirkwood including the mirkwood storyline skirmishes can level as free players from level 50 to 65 without paying anything turbine is trying to discourage this too by requiring players to pay to unlock all of their trait slots irritating to be sure but it certainly could be worse note that this may mean that buying a super cheap clearance moria expansion box if you can find one will be a more cost effective means of getting access to that content than buying it through the lotro store we can t be sure yet some head scratching moves there are a few things that don t make sense to me at the moment a few monster play is being described as subscriber only are they worried that free accounts would be used to spy on the opposing faction i can t see any other reason why this change makes sense as player versus player only works if you ve got players in the zone as doc holiday notes the announcement confirms that the game will not get any new content until the f2p rollout this fall at that point the game will be getting what sounds like a mirkwood sized miniexpansion but it will be for levels 62 65 with no increase in the level cap first this means that i will have limited reason to purchase this content especially if the epic book portion of the zone is free to play second i m not even convinced that the game needs more content in this level range i hit level 65 very early in mirkwood albeit with the benefit of rested exp which a premium player won t have i d be willing to grind out some extra skirmishes and daily quests if it meant not having to pay for a new miniexpansion just to finish out a level or so mind bogglingly turbine points will not be universally usable in both ddo and lotro if you play both games you will have to maintain separate balances then again i m already stuck with two turbine accounts because they don t have any method to add a free ddo account to an existing lotro account so i would only be in for a headache trying to get that fixed if they did allow a common balance as soe does with its station cash there s also a gold cap and it s very low for free players 2 gold and somewhat low 5g for premium non subscribers anyone who has ever paid real money for something such as the current boxes at current prices neither player type can purchase the larger of the game s housing and free players cannot pay for their level 35 mounts finally i don t see any reason why i d pay for a lotro subscription at any point between now and the f2p rollout there won t be any new content for the next 3 6 months there will be ways to earn lotro turbine points in game but there will be no retroactive credit for doing things now that will be worth turbine points in the future this means that if you re thinking of subscribing for a few months to rent the content you ll need to get some alts from level 15 50 before downgrading to f2p using the expansions you currently own you may be better off waiting for the f2p rollout to do so turbine is offering a stipend of sorts for current subscribers to be paid in turbine points when f2p arrives but the maximum rate for non lifetime subscribers will work out to fewer points than the cost of the subscription assuming ddo like exchange rates unless you re planning to actually play in the interim you re better off buying the points directly when the time comes instead of paying for a subscription to get some points thrown in later lifetime subscribers who seem to be making out reasonably well in this whole deal need to read the fine print and log in at least once a month between now and the rollout to get all their points bottom line personally i m reasonably okay with the way ddo s store works so i m cautiously optimistic for this roll out i d much rather pay for what i use and not get locked into a monthly fee especially now that i ve branched out into four mmo s and counting that said this change also means that it is relatively unlikely that i will ever take a lotro alt beyond the newbie zones i m not going to want to pay to unlock all of the mid level content that i ve already done on my main as that would stick a huge price tag on leveling alts that i m not that interested in from 15 50 for most other aspects of the game housing cosmetic outfits storage etc turbine has done a reasonable job of ensuring that the entry level content is free so that they can sell upgrades in the store i guess that the fee has to come somewhere but it does seem to discourage alts also like the ddo store it sounds like the lotro store will be heavily stocked with one time purchases that may or may not be a long term problem since lotro already has so many lifetime and discounted subscribers anyway but it s something worth watching in the future posted by green armadillo at 9 31 am 15 comments labels business models lotro pvd friday june 4 2010 followup triumph of the solo cross faction chocobo apparently the rng thought it owed me a favor because i couldn t make this up if i wanted to yes i just got both the zg raptor and white hawkstrider from kael thas in the space of three hours the shock of soloing a raid boss to claim a mount i ve coveted since 2006 had not yet worn off and i wasn t even going to bother continuing to farm kael thas after getting the raptor but i had a half cleared save i d bailed out to reset a bad group of adds on the third boss and figured i might as well go for my fifth solo kael thas kill the bird is listed at a 3 drop and the raptor at about a 1 so the odds against my getting both back to back like this are pretty astronomical and yes i m still thinking about my response to the lotro news turbine really overshadowed me on the blogosphere today i guess i m just going to hop onto my hawkstrider and ride off to the top of the nearest hill where i ll hop onto my raptor and ride off into the sunset also i m guessing that most of you hate me right about now posted by green armadillo at 4 34 pm 2 comments labels mounts my characters pvd wow triumph of the zg cross faction solo raid mount blizzard historically makes it very difficult to obtain mounts that are traditionally used by the opposing faction unless you happen to be a horde character who was around for the inaugural brewfest you re typically looking at a 1 drop rate and sometimes a lockout of a day or longer on repeating the instances in question also if you need help to beat the bosses in question you re in for a roll off if it finally drops going for these mounts is something to do for fun and or out of boredom but not because you seriously think you re going to get one thanks to insane gear inflation in wrath i ve been curious to see whether i could solo bosses from previous expansions who drop shiny mount rewards over the weekend i learned to take down the 5 man heroic magister s terrace where kael thas has a chance of dropping a white blood elf chicken it takes me the better part of an hour to make the run but it s actually challenging so i enjoy the effort with that out of the way the next question was the level 60 zul gurub 20 man raid i ran this place into the ground at level 60 and never even saw the raptor boss drop the troll raptor mount however i read that the fight was soloable so off i went to zg it turns out that yes the raptor boss can be soloed by a mage he has a habit of stopping to whirlwind and generally running slowly so you can kite him around the instance until your cooldowns are ready pop the water elemental and mirror images and do a bit of damage it took over 17 minutes but i was able to kill the guy wait a minute what the heck is that second item that dropped this was the mount that i ve always wanted the most but i hadn t even considered that i d ever actually get to own it if for no other reason than because of the 3 day raid lockout i even farmed up the rep on my tauren because i figured that would be as close as i d ever get some days the rng decides to smile on you i suppose i m not sure if this technically counts as having dropped on the first try since i have killed that boss a few dozen times in raids but i ll take it p s of course we would 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