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eveloper should you want to pay player versus developer mmo incentive analysis from a player s perspective since 2008 saturday december 1 2012 should you want to pay should we as players i e consumers of mmo s want to pay for our games most people who can count will have some level of selfish desire to pay less get more and somehow have the developers not go out of business in the process that aside should you want to play a game where you are paying your fair share equally important in the era of non subscription payment models and cash shops should you not want to play games that are structured in a way where you are not paying much my complaint about swtor s new model which should not be a surprise to longtime readers since i have raised the same objection to several soe games that have taken a similar approach is that i actually want to pay them more bioware does not think it s in their interest to allow non subscribers to pay for a fully unimpaired experience in their product if the only two options are to subscribe or suck up quality of life penalties and pay nothing more once i ve unlocked the handful of things bioware is willing to sell i may just go ahead and freeload that s not really the happiest outcome for either myself or bioware i would argue that studios have done themselves a disservice by hyping the free angle on for profit products that have to make money somehow the games can never be completely without cost and there will always be one restriction that is the most onerous one left no matter how many things the studio relaxes eq2 may be running into this wall today after several years of doing the dance that swtor is doing today meanwhile the dual business model creates a variety of expectations with most non subscribers misguidedly begrudging every penny and subscribers insisting that their 15 should be the only money anyone is allowed to ever pay and anything more would be pay to win and so we have the talk of whales mounts that have gone from 10 outrage to 25 sparkle ponies and perhaps 50 soon and the ongoing slippery slope of cash shops as studios claim that more revenue is needed and the majority of players rush to say not it i m not about to run out and pay hundreds of dollars for premium stuff but in general i think that players who are not supporting the product can expect to be disappointed with its future direction perhaps the middle ground was the old world in which everyone paid 15 and the developers did whatever they wanted to with the proceeds but that ship appears to have sailed if the result really is a generation of games whose primary revenue stream is catering to the highest cash store bidder i don t think anyone other than that one big spender will be happy with the result posted by green armadillo at 12 53 am labels business models eq2 pvd star wars 3 comments bhagpuss december 1 2012 at 4 02 am for me it depends just about 100 on whether the developer chooses to cast their whale net in the oceans of a real virtual world or just in a game i m here for the former and i don t have a great deal of interest in the latter as long as the free part is a big open convincing imaginary environment that uses a setting that appeals to me they can sell whatever they like in the cash shop and monetize how they please it doesn t make much odds to me whether it s 50 dollar ponies that do nothing but look pretty or 50 guns that kill stuff better and faster than anything that comes without a price tag as a virtual sightseer not having to pay for a visa to cross the imaginary border works well for me whether current f2p models encourage solid creative virtual world building is far from certain but then the subscription expansion model didn t always do such a great job of that either reply delete replies reply psychochild december 1 2012 at 7 34 pm i gave up on lotro long ago sadly the transition to free to play drained immersion i was looking for allowing me to take part in middle earth through the game this is just a sad reminder that the game is not for me anymore i also worry if when is stupid shit like this coming to ddo reply delete replies reply andrew december 4 2012 at 9 03 pm i had no issue paying for ddo before it crossed a real pay to cheat line raid timer bypasses the best raid loot of six months ago in their cash shop i bought content cosmetics and a host of other items and had no issue spending on it less than a whale but about as much as a subscription now i don t spend a dime on the game and am not likely to short of a major management overhaul reply delete replies reply add comment load more comments on posts older than 14 days are moderated and will not appear until manually approved because the overwhelming majority of such comments are spam anonymous commenting has unfortunately been disabled due to the sheer volume of comments that are defeating google s spam filter newer post older post home subscribe to post comments atom subscribe subscribe to pvd about 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years ago in order to apply some generous pandemic promo codes that expi subscription game item shops are the third trammel the original trammel was an alternate version of the ultima online world that did not permit free for all pvp with the victor free to loot a bring the loot not the fun unfortunately most people myself included are not running heroics for challenge they are running them to get loot anon popular posts all time the challenging ddo lotro re onboarding process i reinstalled the two former turbine mmorpg s i used to play 5 years ago in order to apply some generous pandemic promo codes that expi is the swtor credit cap killing unlock resales a few weeks ago i pondered whether swtor s credit cap was going to cause issues for the game s business model it s a bit ear thrall s farewell to nagrand i haven t heard officially whether the questline where thrall visits nagrand will be removed by cataclysm but it seems like an unfortun wow 2010 more like 2008 than 2004 there s 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