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german mathematically based art robert a heinlein second life seifert surface shapeways view blog reactions friday october 23 2009 an interview in chinese and english with virtual superstar cao fei will you be the next artist showing at rmb city cao fei aka china tracy in second life is one of six finalists for the 2010 hugo boss award the 100 000 prize is presented every other year to the artist or group of artists working in any medium anywhere in the world for making the most important contribution to contemporary art in second life we know her as the artist who conceived and produced the four sim islands work collectively known as rmb city and also for her 3 part i mirror machinima a documentary shot in second life and presented at the 52nd venice biennale 2007 this is a second blogpost in a two part series we are publishing today the first wherein i finally love cao fei s rmb city can be found here these days it is almost impossible to pick up an art journal read an art blog or watch a tv documentary on the arts without hearing about cao s second life persona china tracy the pig tailed avatar that looks to be a cross between a medieval dragon slayer and a space age bot girl this global fawning is not without merit as pbs art 21 points out in its recent episode fantasy and contemporary art cao reflects the fluidity of a world in which cultures have mixed and diverged in rapid evolution her video installations and new media works explore perception and reality in places as diverse as a chinese factory and the virtual world of second life now that i ve confessed in the preceding blogpost that i m late to the china tracy fan club i can also say that i ve been making up for lost time by learning considerably more about the artist soon after my epiphany and subsequent appreciation of rmb city i sent cao nine questions and i didn t pull any punches either b tizzy 如果让你说出你事业中最关键的时刻 它对你选择从事现在的工作起过至关重要的作用 你觉得是什么时候 为什么 if you were to identify the most pivotal moment in your career that moment that most shaped what you are doing now what would it be and why cao fei 我创作的发展旅程是一个自然发展和逐渐过渡变化的过程 没有突然的转折点 没有什么重大时刻 它是一个循序渐进的 对这个世界 包括自己的人生的一个慢慢堆积 感悟 理解的过程 my work has developed along a natural and gradual trajectory there haven t been any sudden turning points or significant moments it s been a gradual progression and a process of accumulation inspiration and understanding of the world including my own life shot entirely in world at rmb city this video is by lainy voom with writing by wagner james au aka hamlet au b tizzy 你所从事的工作是从什么时候开始有全球性视野的 你是有意决定这样做的吗 at what point did your work take on a global aspect and was it a conscious decision cao fei 生活在今天的中国 每个个体都不能避免被卷入这全球化的运动 都不能对我们身边的激烈变迁视而不见 我只是在用自己的方式记录 表达我对身边这些变化的深切感受 这是个身不由己的时代 时代会迫使你作出一定回应 no living being in contemporary china can avoid globalization or turn a blind eye to its acute changes i am merely using my own method to document and express my honest feelings with regards to the changes that surround me b tizzy 你是使用什么软件建立起了第一个人民城寨 是我们一开始在youtube见到的那个吗 你是先做好了它然后才发现第二人生的 还是你那时就已经是虚拟世界居民了 what software did you use to create the first rmb city the one we first saw on youtube did you make it first and then discover second life or had you already become a virtual world resident cao fei 我是在2007年1月成为虚拟世界居民 然后用了半年时间在虚拟世界旅行 拍摄了i mirror 紧接着 就有了建造人民城寨的构想 并开始用3d max软件把城市基本构想勾勒出来 也就是后来你们在youtube看到的video rmb city planning 2007 i became a virtual world resident in january 2007 then i spent half a year traveling in the virtual world and filming i mirror soon after i had the idea of building rmb city and started building the basic blueprint with 3ds max software the result is the youtube video which you have seen rmb city planning 2007 rmb city on cao fei s computer rmb city in second life b tizzy 人民城寨备受现实世界艺术评论家以及博物馆和媒体的推崇 但却未得到第二人生居民的充分赏识 我们是应该解决这个问题 还是转向只针对现实世界 real world 来做这个项目 rmb city is acclaimed by real world art critics museum and media but under appreciated by second life residents does that matter moving forward or was this project intended for real life cao fei 我想 这是个悖论 我们总是很难做到周全而完美 要得到更多第二人生居民的赏识 我还需要做很多我不胜任的工作 如如何竭力保持社团的黏性 如何不断组织虚拟居民喜闻乐见的活动 如何发展会员等等 人民城寨项目是一个艺术项目 它具有在当代文化概念上的指涉 以及在这个框架下的实验价值 它不一定要具有虚拟社会内的普罗大众的功能 而做一个在虚拟社会里很pop的地点也不是我的初衷 我更原意把它当作一个超越对固定理解之外的 现场 不刻意针对现实世界或虚拟社群 甚至忘记其的虚拟特性和现实依据 它是一个模糊的 开放的 不被彰显定义的地带 一切事物都可被卷入而最终不再成为他们的原本 而它作为一个具有沟通现实世界特性的项目 迂回在两个世界之间 这也可能是其他虚拟城市 项目所缺乏的 i think this is a paradox it s always difficult to create a perfect thing to win the appreciation of more second life residents i would have to do a lot of work that i am incapable of doing such as maintaining a tight knit community organizing regular activities that interest second life residents develop membership and so forth rmb city is an art project and contains references to contemporary cultural concepts given the experimental framework it doesn t have to serve the proletarian function of virtual societies furthermore it was not my intent to create a very pop place within the virtual world i would rather treat it as a site that transcends fixed interpretations i don t purposely address the real world or virtual groups and even forget its virtual characteristics and foundation in reality it is an ambiguous open zone that eludes definition things get pulled in and may never revert to their original form again this project channels real world characteristics and rests outside of two worlds something that perhaps other virtual cities projects lack b tizzy 人民城寨被认为是具有讽刺意味符号集合的典型 事实如此吗 还是你有别的看法 rmb city is typically described as a satirical collection of icons is that what it is or is there something else cao fei 除了讽刺 还有赞美 甚至歌颂 但这都不是它的全部 它还有失落 忧郁 以及回忆和怀旧 作为一个文化意义上的 空间 它具有研究 讨论 实验 实践的特性 作为一个心灵景观 它无时无刻都在上演流动的戏剧 作为一个折射当代中国的镜像 它有着后现代的狂欢和梦呓 同时有着反省与自悟 当然也有包括其他城市都共同具有的特性 虚空 there is satire but also praise and even admiration but this does not describe it in its entirety there is also loss melancholy memory and nostalgia as a cultural space it lends itself to research discussion experimentation and realization as a spiritual site it is a constant ongoing drama as a reflection of contemporary china it has the revelry and balderdash of postmodernism at the same time it is introspective and self perceptive of course it also includes the one trait that all cities have emptiness b tizzy 飞机撞上大楼的景象让美国人见了就火冒三丈 什么促使你把它带进了人民城寨 the image of a plane flying into buildings is nauseating for americans what compelled you to introduce that to rmb city cao fei 我想这个问题所表现出来的先入为主是文化差异的表现 或者是差异所导致的联想 我们城市里的飞机不是撞上大楼 而是卡在密集的建筑之间 中国急剧的城市化导致建筑密度大幅增加 不断外扩的cbd淹没我们的天际线 逐渐的 我们只能在楼宇和城中村的缝隙间看到飞机越过天空 而在rmb city 飞机一旦掠过城市 就再也飞不出去了 永远地卡在这个溢出的都市中 i think immediately of cultural differences or rather the associations that form as a result of difference the planes in our city do not crash into buildings they are caught between densely concentrated architecture china s rapid urbanization has resulted in a building boom the constantly expanding cbd has submerged our skyline eventually we will only be able to see planes from inside buildings or gaps within the city when a plane flies over rmb city it can never leave and is forever trapped inside the overflowing city b tizzy 人民城寨有什么需要发掘的秘密吗 有什么是第二人生居民不能理解 或是觉得不值得关注的 are there any secrets that need discovering at rmb city what haven t second life residents understood or picked out that is noteworthy cao fei 人民城寨从来没有什么秘密 也没有什么需要去发掘的 去慢慢体味它可能更适合 或者你尝试放弃飞翔去徒步漫游 再或者飞到城市之颠或无限接近城市的边缘 喜欢一个城市与否 和你喜欢某本书一样 有人喜欢畅销书 有人喜欢冷门的诗歌集 大部分人喜欢流行乐 还是有人喜欢偏门的噪音 这就是趣味和选择 我们很高兴人民城寨能成为另外一种选择或者众选择之一 欢迎大家 也许 有一天你会爱上它 或者短短的一次性旅程能让你记忆深刻 以至于它在某天突然消失了你恍然间感到隐隐不舍 rmb city has never had any secrets or things waiting to be unearthed it s probably more appropriate to slowly experience it yourself you can give up flying and walk around or fly to a high point in the city or one of the countless peripheral points on the outskirts whether or not you like a city is the same as whether or not you like a book some people like best sellers and some prefer obscure chapbooks most people like pop music but still some prefer experimental sound this has to do with preference and choice we are very happy that rmb city can be an option or one of many options b tizzy 请再给我们介绍一些关于人民城寨新古根海姆大楼的情况 tell us more about the new guggenheim building at rmb city cao fei i have been invited by the guggenheim museum to participate in the 2010 exhibit contemplating the void interventions in the guggenheim museum rotunda for the museum s 50th anniversary the guggenheim invited approximately 250 artists architects and designers to imagine their dream intervention in frank lloyd wright s rotunda therefore i built a virtual guggenheim that can transform into an ox horn i chose an ox horn because of an ancient buddhist story second life is an intangible non physical space that has its conceptual foundations rooted in the virtual dimension as such our perception and comprehension of this space is largely reliant on visuals and psychological impact within second life s rmb city the guggenheim museum is transformed into an ox horn floating in the city s sky like a manifestation of the notion of nothingness as depicted in the story of milarepa thera and the horn and the parallel relationships that the virtual and real worlds possess towards nothingness on some level it is also akin to the idea of inherent harmony amongst disparate entities within buddhist cosmology director cao fei sl china tracy concept script huang he sl queenshoe voom translation venus lau sl nokan vlodovic project manager samantha culp sl miniature tigerpaw project coordinator mengxian li sl ume freiman engineer of fengshui project sinewave camera editing avatrian co produced by kaaitheater festival performatik 09 brussels belgium b tizzy 放眼未来 你对未来人民城寨合作在艺术以及艺术家发面有什么期望 moving forward what are you looking for in art and artists for future rmb city collaborations cao fei 人民城寨它是一个持续时间为两年的艺术项目 接下来还有1年的时间就要结束了 人民城寨是一个用来运转的作品 它不仅仅是用来看和游览的 它鼓励和邀请人们参与 对系统建设性地提出问题与假设 并向更开放的方向发展 称之为 行动的 自由的 系统之间的 rmb city is a two year project there is one more year before it ends rmb city is a revolving piece and not just for viewing or visiting we encourage and invite people to participate and raise questions and hypotheses about the system structure so we can develop a more open ly and in an even more open direction it should be considered moving free seamless between systems many thanks to philana woo for making this interview possible with her english to chinese chinese to english translations and to honora shea of vitamin creative space for making the arrangements i also especially want to thank cao fei for graciously agreeing to this interview at a time when she is busy caring for her baby son cowboy lim born in march of this year in addition to working on her many projects within and outside of second life posted by bettina tizzy at 4 29 pm 3 comments labels art 21 cao fei china tracy guggenheim hamlet au i mirror lainy voom machinima not possible irl npirl philana woo rmb city virtual arts view blog reactions wherein i finally love cao fei s rmb city part i china tracy is the second life avatar of cao fei a beijing based woman born in guangzhou china in 1978 and the most acclaimed virtual worlds artist in real life it is therefore illogical that this blog which has logged 745 posts to date and the majority of them about virtual art has never featured china tracy cao fei or her creations i do so today not because cao was selected by the solomon r guggenheim foundation as one of the six finalists for the 2010 hugo boss award the 100 000 are presented every other year to the artist or group of artists working in any medium anywhere in the world for making the most important contribution to contemporary art certainly the most appropriate museum in the world for observing fostering and archiving virtual art is the guggenheim we ve been waiting for it to arrive with acute and i suppose guarded anticipation how will things change when they take their rightful place furthermore cao s virtual work was just featured on pbs art 21 fantasy and contemporary art episode last week here is the preview there are multiple ironies running through this story for china tracy s much celebrated virtual oeuvre the four sims islands work known collectively as rmb city is thoroughly unvisited and unloved in second life except when a bevy of hired content creators are constructing some new area or exhibit the occasional party and rmb city s illustrious first home away from home youtube is often blocked and inaccessible to most of her countrymen and even to her for all i know it s possible that she may not even be able to read this blogpost the sorry truth is that even though i recognized that her work was important brilliant even and a credit to virtual worlds i didn t have much to say about it the computer generated version of rmb city depicted in the video was charming and oddly alluring but the realized construction of it in second life though impeccably recreated by hired metaverse developers left me cold the plug and the socket were both present but the work failed to solicit any connections speaking for myself alone and as a frequent user of virtual worlds rmb city felt lonely and somehow broken it s biggest failing in my view it s not immersive it s like looking at a painting within a painting the best way i can describe it is that i m not there even when i am there china tracy cao fei is the only virtual artist i can think of that contracts out the work of constructing her visions in second life while many artists do collaborate with others the implementation of their ideas with sl s building tools and actual prims is a source of pride and critique as well this isn t to say that cao fei wouldn t know how to do it herself consider that she created the original rmb city on her computer with 3ds max a modeling program that more advanced creators use to fabricate sculpties in second life looking for further insights i asked chenin anabuki who heads up avatrain the company that recreated phase i of rmb city in second life for cao fei what he had learned from the experience i learned that we have this huge part of ourselves that is very creative prior to rmb i mainly saw us as engineers but sl almost forces you to be creative no matter what your function is development in sl is not as linear as in rl so over time we got to learn the different ways to implement content for our clients these projects are difficult many people who are new to sl are not aware of what is possible in sl he explained okay i get it something clicked with me back in early september though when i read the opening paragraph of a recent press release issued by vitamin creative space promoting the unveiling of a new video of rmb by lainy voom and a party as well as fashion photo contests jointly held with metaverse chronicler hamlet au of new world notes and presided over by virtual fashion maven iris ophelia many of us are born into shelter 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