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inues until a kill shot is taken by one or the other fighter a fighter manages to disengage successfully the desired learning point has been achieved or a safety factor is encountered over g going through minimum altitude min fuel etc the second type of setup is a neutral setup typically called a butterfly the two jets start in tactical formation about 6 9k apart and the flight lead calls for a turn away from each other of 45 degrees at some point the flight lead calls for the turn in and both aircraft turn back towards each other for a head on pass the flight lead will call fight s on at some point typically immediately prior to the pass so that maneuvering can begin this now leads to a decision on the part of both fighter pilots do i want a two circle fight or a one circle fight there s an excellent discussion of this here but basically if your turn radius is better than the other jet s try for a one circle back in the day i used to be able to draw a fight diagram much better my apologies if your turn rate is not better than the other try for a two circle fight because you ve got more turning room to use i say try because the other guy also gets a vote in the fight he has to turn in the direction you expect him to otherwise i was about to learn how to make that happen so there i was ras and i were scheduled for an ip currency 1 v 1 bfm ride in beak charlie the closest air to air area to holloman basically we would be fighting air to air against each other for currency cloudcroft nm was the western boundary roswell the eastern and ruidoso the northern that proximity meant we d have maximum gas for fighting typically when these rides went on the schedule they were immediately filled by students riding in the back seats however this time it was just ras and i he had told the duty officer not to allow any students you ll understand why shortly briefing was short and sweet here s the frequencies joker and bingo fuel levels and a discussion of which bfm setup we were going to use butterfly we had flown together enough as ips that not much else was needed we step to the jets crank up formation takeoff and we re in the area a couple of g awareness turns the at 38b was getting old and we needed to tune our bodies to what the mandated g limit was so that we didn t overstress the aircraft and reduce its lifespan must have worked this story occurred about 30 years ago and the airplanes are still flying everything s ready to go a quick fuel check from ras and he calls for the turn away i check 45 away and rollout snap my head around so as to keep sight of ras got him we continue on heading for a bit and he calls turn in i m pulling right on the g limit get pointed at him and unload the aircraft to get some speed back we re about a mile out now and i m planning for a two circle fight since i m a little above him i plan to slice down to the left leading the turn as much as i can at that point ras calls fight s on and pulls up and takes a head on gun shot at the time the safety rules prohibited any gun shots within 45 degrees either side of head on so i d never seen a head on shot also since the guns on most fighters are boresighted with the aircraft where the gun is pointed is where the aircraft is pointed if ras has taken a gunshot the gun is pointed at me and so is his aircraft ras passes close aboard this has left me somewhat startled and there s a pause before i start to maneuver i roll left and start the pull expecting ras to have done the same which should put him somewhere above my tail pointed away i can t see him and call blind another safety thing if he calls blind also we knock it off and get altitude separation he calls continue i m in big trouble he sees me i m still frantically searching for him looking over my left down shoulder when something catches the corner of my eye i crank around to the right just in time to see ras swooping down on the back side of his vertical circle he s gone for a one circle fight using the vertical and by virtue of being below me and pulling up for the shot he s lead turned me when he got to the top of his loop he was slow and inverted so gravity helped him turn much faster fortunately he s not in guns range yet but he s closing fast i break back right and up trying to force his nose into lag pointed behind me but i m running out of airspeed and he s not i see his nose slide out in front of me and i start to make out the intakes on the side of his jet with my eyesight at the time that was my indication that he was about 2500 away aka guns range with my eyesight now i think he d be in my back seat before i saw intakes i roll the aircraft until the canopy is about 45 degrees below the horizon and plant the stick in my lap i m jinking hard roll the aircraft again push the stick forward again and again and again but ras is still back there he hasn t called any shots but i ain t getting away either i m expecting a knock it off for lesson learned but no i m jinking for about a month and a half until we get to bingo knock it off and head home back in the debrief ras walks in with a couple of beers hands one to me and says juvat there are no safety roe rules of engagement in combat and there s no knock it off then he took a couple of sips of beer as he let me ponder that he then followed with best jinking i ve ever seen i never got a shot let s talk about how you did that i want to learn how i miss him if you d like to read more of his stories and i highly recommend you do he published three books before he passed one in conjunction with robin olds the other two autobiographies about his assignments yes beans more than one in south east asia excellent stories rest in peace warrior ed you deserve it peace out y all joker fuel means keep an eye on your gas this is the last engagement bingo fuel means knock it off rejoin on me and we re headed home enough gas to get home and land with a safe amount of fuel in case something bad happens at the base what s 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