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nk or protest for poorly designed policies i mean indeed this is all worse than them addressing threats in the most rational and optimal way but how is it a problem that even ranks compared to them not addressing threats because they don t know about them and who are you to not tell people about genuine risks to them that they would act on to protect their feelings or because they would be more upset than you want share this share on facebook opens in new window facebook share on x opens in new window x share on reddit opens in new window reddit share on tumblr opens in new window tumblr share on whatsapp opens in new window whatsapp share on pinterest opens in new window pinterest print opens in new window print share on telegram opens in new window telegram email a link to a friend opens in new window email leave a comment posted in 1 numb mental state shifts posted on may 20 2026 leave a comment crossposted from world spirit sock puppet share this share on facebook opens in new 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eternity when casually improving or protecting or investing in things it s easy for me to treat life and perhaps even the present period as basically eternal in fact i shouldn t but it can take many years of living to really feel how likely it is that you ll leave your perfectly wonderful house within two years or just keep on aging dominion lets me feel that in a matter of hours by tempting me to invest in a beautiful and effective deck that will do amazingly for the rest of eternity then making the other player win by haphazardly buying a handful of provinces before i m done which is very annoying and i do hold against it the witness there is nothing in the witness at least near the start i haven t played it all that you can pick up and take with you no objects no points no manna no health it s just you walking around in a world something about that feels like it would be deeply unsatisfying like what is a game if you can t get y know things dings part of me thinks that getting is equivalent to satisfaction in spite of all the evidence to the contrary i keep pointing out to it and the witness is not where i came to realize that what the witness made me feel is that knowledge is a real thing you can get like an object not some hand wavey second rate bullshit thing that philosophers pretend to get off on in the witness while your character walks around impermeable to the world you come to know more things and knowing more things lets you go to places you couldn t go to when you knew fewer things the game on the computer concretely changes from you picking up knowledge that ethereal thing in your mind this is of course how everything is but i suppose the absence of any other form of picking up things in the witness made me actually feel it minecraft how many of my difficulties in life are not this life specific how to live as a creature with different boundaries of personal identity e g the world spirit much more about these in my previous post mine craft return of the obra dinn if at an event where lots of people are saying their name and what they do or something i am usually bored and don t expect to remember these things return of the obra dinn is a game where you have to figure out from minute clues the names and causes of death of a lot of characters once at a networking event i decided to think of it as like a sequel of return of the obra dinn i could see all these people sitting around the table and my quest was to pin a name and a deal to each of them and this introductory section was currently showing me crucial information i found that this was a very different mental state so i suppose i learned that whatever i was normally doing in trying to learn things about the other attendees it is an extremely pale cousin of the curiosity i can feel in a different mental state and that different mental state is actually fairly different and naturally invoked in rotod and not networking introductions dungeons and dragons caitlin elizondo says dnd has given her a few concepts that make a difference to her thinking more generally the concept of will saves has given her more empathy for situations where someone wanted to but failed to do something the six dnd stats helps her access the framework where there are different types of competency that are valuable for different tasks obvious in theory but easier to think in terms of with this structure poker the feeling of being on tilt boggle set ragnarock the feeling of flow ragnarock is mine and i would have said i d experienced flow elsewhere but ragnarock is sometimes more like an altered state than other such experiences i ve had civilization iv i used to lose at a scenario then go back and play it again over and over changing things slightly until i won which gave me a vivid sense of how suboptimal my native strategy is presumably also in life which is obvious in theory but it s different to really feel how much better i would live this day if i was doing it the twentieth time with a laser focus on winning games in general the experience of addiction sadly i ve always struggled to keep up habits of taking addictive substances so i infer i m unusually safe from chemical addictions i used to play civilization for five minutes as a reward if i remembered to take my amphetamines games are i think the thing i find most seriously addictive which has definite downsides but it is certainly also an interesting experience that helps me understand the wider world better and where i would be missing something if i just read about addiction in the abstract do you have any to add eta may 1 i m adding more i hear in the above list and also see many good additions in the comments share this share on facebook opens in new window facebook share on x opens in new window x share on reddit opens in new window reddit share on tumblr opens in new window tumblr share on whatsapp opens in new window whatsapp share on pinterest opens in new window pinterest print opens in new window print share on telegram opens in new window telegram email a link to a friend opens in new window email 1 comment posted in 1 understand why ai is a doom risk in 39 captivating minutes posted on may 2 2026 leave a comment crossposted from world spirit sock puppet i ve really wanted more good short accounts of why ai poses an existential risk working on one myself has been one of those incredibly high priorities i keep putting off meanwhile award winning journalist ben bradford of npr has made a podcast version of my case for ai x risk that i am thrilled with bonus within the 39 minutes what hamza chaudhry of fli thinks we should do about it who i was delighted to later meet as a consequence if you or anyone you know could do with a quick and gripping rundown of why this is a problem try this one get it on any podcasting app here https pod link 1893359212 the npr press release has more context on the rest of the series assessing different possible sources of doom share this share on 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talked to joe carlsmith about this here are some ideas mostly from the conversation a thing that has discouraged me from having independent views and broadcasting them is the concern that my views are extremely ignorant at the normal pace of new information appearing i am just too slow a reader to be acceptably up on it at the ai news rate it s very hopeless and even if you recognize that situation at a high level it can be easy to get to thinking i want to write something about w but i ll need to read x y and the sequence on z and all the responses to it first it was helpful to me to give up on this kind of expectation and accept that i m going to be ignorant and have views anyway i think this is the right thing to do because a everyone is fairly ignorant and we don t want the public discussion to be only the few people who don t realize they are ignorant or care and b saying what you guess is true then letting people point you to why you are wrong is often more efficient than scouring all writing on the topic and c there s value from more independent thinking on a topic and being informed comes with being less independent bringing us to being sufficiently out of the loop can actually help as long as you are bold enough not to be silenced by this if you don t know what others views are you have to come up with your own focus on having your own beliefs at a relatively high level for instance shouldn t we be stopping ai though wait does that argument make sense is the kind of thing you can think about and discuss reasonably well without needing to know a lot of technical or fast moving details until a more manageable few are brought up in the argument and my sense is that these kinds of questions e g is our basic strategy what it should be are actually neglected which brings us to status intellectual deference probably follows normal patterns of status based deference so it probably helps to be either high status or arrogant that s a lot of effort but you can have the experience of being high status or arrogant by talking to people who are relatively lower status or deferential such as children it probably helps to be brought up in a situation where you learned to distrust the thinking of everyone around you it s probably ideal to be taught by your parents that everyone else around is an idiot then to come to distrust your parents opinions also that s hard to get later in life but perhaps you can get something similar from experiencing apparently venerable intellects confidently asserting things then later observing them to be false if you are in conversations where it seems like the other person isn t making sense try to assume that is what s going on rather than the potentially much more salient explanation that you are a fool give esteem to people asking potentially silly questions it can help to expose yourself to impressive people who do this niels bohr quotes are helpful ht wikiquote refuse to understand things unless they are very clear i don t really know how to do this because i don t know what the alternative is like being steadfastly confused about things seems to come naturally to me and i don t know how else to be but maybe you have both affordances available here and could lean one way or the other something something do real thinking versus fake thinking ironically this point i am deferring on because i haven t finished listening to joe s so far very interesting post if you are going to pass on information that you don t deeply understand track that it is a different thing for instance by saying something something share this share on facebook opens in new window facebook share on x opens in new window x share on reddit opens in new window reddit share on tumblr opens in new window tumblr share on whatsapp opens in new window whatsapp share on pinterest opens in new window pinterest print opens in new window print share on telegram opens in new window telegram email a link to a friend opens in new window 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