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to the location the players would automatically be ported to the beginning of the inside of the instance itself convenience we are it regardless the biggest problem the original lfd tool was meant to solve was getting players grouped and into instances painlessly which most people took to mean avoiding the trade chat cesspool and that s putting it politely given that trade chat back then was a haven of racist and sexist material think about that for a minute wow s trade chat back then when admins were far more numerous and attentive to players was worse than lfg chat in classic is now were there server balance issues yes there were but wow was still in a growth expansion mode so the battleground groups evened things out a bit it was only in a post cataclysm world when the wow population began to shrink did server balance issues become a problem i still remember how stunned i was when in 2014 i discovered that ysera us one of the old wow servers and where my alliance toons resided on had shrunk so far in population that it was a recommended landing spot for new players but before there were balance issues grouping balance issues became a thing as in if you weren t a tank or to a lesser extent a healer you were going to wait a lot yes yes i know some things never change but still the tank problem from cataclysm onward was severe enough that waiting for upwards of an hour or more as a dps for a queue to pop could be maddening and then if you ever thought about tanking so that you could avoid the wait the abuse heaped on tanks and to be fair the tanks healers would heap on dps too could get pretty extreme i pretty much gave up on heroic instance runs in cataclysm based on the crap slung around in normal instance runs and by the time mists dropped i found battlegrounds preferable to running instances where everybody was expected to know everything and lol l2p noob was one of the nicer refrains i heard so why would we want to return to that i suppose that people in classic who are in favor of a return of the automated lfg tool have forgotten what it was like to be learning the fights via said tool in my personal experience zoning in and declaring that hey i m still learning this instance could be enough for at least one person to drop or that someone would initiate a vote kick against you it might not be as bad as to have that happen all the time but i d say that about 1 3 of the time when i did that in cataclysm as a dps i d see someone attempt one of the two options and that was for a normal instance mind you not a heroic i have absolutely no idea how people behave in normals and heroics instances these days in retail now that mythic exists i suspect that based on this thread m and other instance runs are not a lovey dovey place at all if everybody knows the fights and has at least a decent set of gear then yeah the tool can be useful for getting your badges and gearing up but notice the decent set of gear part where to you go if you need gear to get to that decent level it becomes a circular problem yeah like this from the blizzard forums and if your entry into running a normal instance again so you can learn the fights in a practical manner and get gear is toxic why stick around as a tool the automated lfg tool does make the process of getting into an instance relatively painless but the tool also operates as well an accelerant it takes a potentially combustible situation and pours gasoline on everything because it eliminates any sense of responsibility for your actions i also believe that it is easier to overlook the problems with the lfg tool when you re in a guild if you re in an active guild you can get a group together punch in the tool and away you go no fuss no muss even if you need a single dps no big deal you get in a lot quicker you can do whatever while you re waiting and it s a rather painless affair if you pug however that s when the problems begin you have to prove yourself time and again and constant usage of the lfg tool is an accelerant on the process make a mistake and some people will judge you faster than middle school kids at lunch time when it is soooo easy to just kick or leave instead of working through problems you can bet that people will choose that option the automated lfg tool if they were to implement it covering battleground server groups would also mask other problems with the wow classic community allowing them to fester without a long term resolution such as server imbalance it needs to be said but in the wow classic community the battleground server groups are practically all the servers in a specific time zone which is great and all for the automated lfg tool but when you transition to raiding not so much i ve covered this before but the reality is that the raiding scene on the smaller servers has been declining close to the point of no return while a couple of gigantic servers are so huge because layering hides problems normally associated with them being too big being unable to farm materials and the consequent inflation of auction house prices spreading the server population out would help a lot because it would prevent the brain drain that is currently happening throughout tbc classic and stretching back to the last few months of vanilla classic it s one of those it sounds great in theory solutions that nobody seems to want to tackle head on because it means that blizz would have to confront one of their big cash cows paid server transfers do i know the answer to the automated lfg tool conundrum no but i do know that installing the solution implemented in retail wrath is a disaster in the making what we know now about wow as implemented in classic courtesy of 50 million walk through videos podcasts blogs websites would likely make people less tolerant of others and that accelerant capability that the automated lfg tool has could be the spark that the community might not recover from remembering the old definition about insanity as performing the same actions over and over and expecting a different result is worth remembering right now something different is called for here perhaps server merges perhaps bans on toon creation transfer to the giant servers perhaps free transfers off of said giant servers or servers with huge faction imbalances or even perhaps some combination of both is worth trying but what i do know is that simply going down the same old path and then expecting it ll all be fine is being incredibly naive thanks to shintar for reminding me of this i thought for the longest time that it was on individual servers even though i did know it was among battleground groups when it released selective memory i guess i do know that with mists and the coming of don t call them server merges the automated tool s reach did expand once before i joined my current guild i tagged along on an instance run of theirs i m so glad we re all friends one of the people in the run said because i absolutely hate pugging instances i could understand the sentiment but given that i got to know most of my in game friends via pugs i felt somewhat slighted posted by redbeard at 9 57 pm 5 comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest labels lfg tool musings retail tbc classic wrath classic thursday may 26 2022 letters from outland part 4 dear sis i m writing this while i m taking a break from the fighting it seems that the burning legion has a never ending supply of infernals to drop on both the alliance and horde fortifications in the poorly named shadowmoon valley and both factions are hard pressed to keep the supply lines open here at wildhammer hold i can only dream of the hellscape that greeted me when i first crossed the dark portal and think ah for the good old days i m sure the contingent at honor hold would disagree but when the sky is on fire you tend to have a different outlook on life a pleasant land this ain t any other name would have likely been a better one than shadowmoon valley which sounds closer to something near astranaar than outland although i m told by an orc whom i knew back in our argent dawn days that the valley takes its name from the shadowmoon clan who led the orcs straight into the legion s lap all those years ago vindicator aluumen has told me he feels that illidan will strike more directly against our fortifications in the coming days but he also thinks that illidan is caught between a rock and a hard place as hard as the legion is hitting us they re also preparing to strike against illidan himself i guess with a name like the betrayer illidan has a certain reputation to uphold and he appears to have double crossed the burning legion too every time i turn around the uglier illidan s troops get at least they all die even if we overcome the odds and hold our ground we need to break both of our enemies before we have a chance to bring a measure of peace to outland hmm since i name dropped the title vindicator i guess i should explain a few things about draenei society that i ve learned over my time spent here the draenei have their equivalent of the knights the vindicators and the priests the anchorites but they also have their version of military commanders the exarchs these roles used to be allowed to specific genders only such as that up until recently had been the case with the night elves and tauren but the need for bodies has broken down their rigid conservativism the fact that my friend zarlie is an anchorite is now by choice rather than by societal expectations she informs me that her sister is yet another classification a farseer who follow the ways of the elements akin to the shamanism of the orcs tauren and trolls i ve also heard whispers about the draenei keepers of the dead the auchenai but only from the lower city while apparently they do exist the great city of the dead auchindoun was destroyed in a disaster only a few years before i crossed the dark portal and the auchenai who survived have well gone a bit crazy i don t know if it s the everybody died and i can t handle it sort of crazy or not but what i ve heard is that the auchenai have been experimenting with things that you d find more out of the cult of the damned than any draenei organization draenei may have a distinctive outlook on life but they are by no means a monolithic race the only thing that truly unites them is their hatred for the burning legion well not hatred per se but probably closer to disappointment apparently many of their brethren were tempted by the gifts offered by the legion and chose to join the legion instead of rejecting them and those fallen draenei are now commanders and leaders among the legion s forces uh i was in the crate please don t look please don t look despite all that i ve grown to like them during my time here i now know how you feel being the shorty of the household as i ve discovered that when you re surrounded by draenei even the kaldorei can appear small the draenei may at first glance seem overly pious and sanctimonious but once you get to know them they open up quite a bit and are quite capable of incredibly bawdy behavior like the elven kindreds they have an unconscious grace and strength that can be quite stunning i m not entirely convinced they re so uptight that they won t drink but it s worth a try sometime either way the draenei have decided that the alliance is their future and so we have to learn to live with them they have suffered under a certain amount of suspicion by our troops because people know their brethren from the legion but it s also intimidating to meet someone who is smarter stronger faster and more graceful than you who is also more sanctimonious than high priestess laurena don t tell her i said that now that i ve been on assignment here in shadowmoon valley i can say that despite first impressions the place has not been totally abandoned by people i know of a few scattered farms here and there particularly on the northern edges of the valley where some orcs refuse to leave and instead eke out a living i ve become rather fond of one oronok who has a ranch high up away from roaming elementals i can tell he took up ranching late in life as he still makes some basic mistakes but i ve learned not to pry too much like many orcs he has demons in his past that he d just as soon forget and if keeping a watchful eye on his helboars helps i m not one to tell him otherwise angry elementals are everywhere an organization of shamans called the earthen ring has been trying to placate them without much success and given the response from our leadership which is mostly get out of here i m busy i can see why i ve been helping to get them some answers from the elementals but not much has come of it so far except for the case of heartburn i ve got right now another fire lord nonetheless we ve also had our run ins with more of those avian types apparently one of them turned traitor which is good for us because their companions were going to try to summon forth what looks like an old god straight into outland given how much trouble they gave us at ahn qiraq i was more than happy to take on that assignment and destroy their summoning attempt that certainly matches a description i m sure you re familiar with good riddance one more thing i realize that this will probably hurt elsharin but i ve encountered many of her ex brethren here in shadowmoon valley as well the sindorei who still follow kael thas have a base here originally they had two but the sindorei following the na aru took over one of them and i ve had to kill more than my share of this sunfury regiment i ve even had to go undercover for a while and thank goodness that i got to know your teacher or i d never have been able to pull it off i actually look pretty good as a redhead and wearing pointy ears don t ask where the ears came from i m not proud of that it s all in the walk and the attitude the more i ve seen these sunfury elves in action the more disgusted i am with them have they all been duped do they honestly feel that they are on the side of justice do they simply not care and just want power any way they can get it if it s that last one they re likely going to end up allying with someone who can claim they provide it and i m afraid i know who that is elves and draenei these two should have been allies from the start but illidan and the legion and truth be told us humans kind of messed up a bit too got in the way i m rambling at this point so i ought to finish up and go to bed soon i ve a long patrol tomorrow that takes me near illidan s stronghold nicknamed the black temple be well and give everyone my love linna again mistress evelyn s grammar lessons came in handy eta corrected a grammar issue card if you are reading this you saw my hidden message and guessed how to bring this out i am being stalked i don t have any proof of it yet but i have this uneasy feeling that my movements are being closely watched and someone is waiting to 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