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f what came after the books ended when i read kamalia s post about the existential horror surrounding wow retail s upcoming shadowlands expac reflecting on battle for azeroth namely exactly how much of the warcraft wow story is planned out ahead of time and when i mean planned out i don t mean for an entire expac but rather years in the future as i commented on kamalia s post back when i was in college and even before the red beard itself i d read about how soap operas were plotted out i was curious about this because i developed an addiction to days of our lives my sophomore year in college yes it was really this cheesy and i wondered just how much of the plot was planned in advance and how much was just made up as they went along in spite of the bad acting that goes on in those shows and when you consider that they film record them day in and day out with very few outtakes due to the schedule it s actually pretty good the plots stories and scripts are written months in advance of actual filming add to that the shows frequently had months of filming already in the can as the saying goes the storylines were frequently plotted out about a year or more before airing while this isn t saying a lot for a regular prime time television show a soap is broadcast almost without fail five days a week 52 weeks a year at maximum that s 260 possible episodes but in reality due to holiday programming and other factors the number is somewhere between 200 and 260 for a 24 episode prime time season that s 10 years worth of episodes and for a bbc or cable type of series that s more like 20 years worth to keep everything straight therefore long term plotting is essential now let s translate this into video games an mmo such as lotro which is based on a completed series of fantasy novels has a great advantage over mmos that are on the game of thrones plan you know the plot you know the characters and you even know the geographic locations and the potential for in zone quests all you have to do is fill in some of the details and extrapolate based on the author s works and in tolkien s case both finished and unfinished while i m not saying it s easy mode for a developer it s far less stressful to fill in a portion of middle earth than it is say the star wars universe with swtor sure there s a lot of potential reference material out there for swtor but there s also a huge amount of freedom for a developer to change things around the old republic era of the star wars universe doesn t have to tiptoe around the old expanded universe novels outside of the revan ones obviously it doesn t have to worry about any of the movies in terms of settings and plot and it certainly doesn t have to worry about the vast majority of star wars fans upset with either the jettisoning of the eu or the direction the prequels and or sequels took but it is under constant scrutiny by everyone and their grandmother for whether swtor is star wars enough to be considered star wars between that and the constant pressure swtor s development staff is under courtesy of bioware executives and ea overall it s no wonder that the direction of swtor s story has swung wildly over the years warcraft and wow fans may not be as rabid as the star wars fanbase but they do have definite ideas on how their beloved franchise should progress however unlike swtor and lotro wow s fanbase dictates a bit of a different focus than what you d come to expect remember the maxim the game starts at max level for wow that means the focus is on endgame more than anything else however i personally don t think that endgame itself is blizz focus narratively speaking if you look at the expacs for wow at least the ones that i ve played up until i dropped by subscription it seems that blizz s focus is toward specific set pieces and plot narrative is driven in service of those specific set pieces from burning crusade with the dramatic conversion of lady liadrin prior to taking up the leadership the shattered sun offensive through wrath with the wrathgate event and even into mists with its multiple video cut setpieces and the siege of orgrimmar that seems to be what drives the wow expac but for me the question is whether there s an overall narrative plan stretching across multiple expacs or whether their service to the set piece means that the set piece is developed first and then the expac is developed around it the reason why kamalia s post is so important is because she lays bare that the upcoming shadowlands expac takes all of those dramatic death scenes or moments of sacrifice suicide missions and makes them horrifying because death isn t the release people thought it was and yes i agree with her completely on her point but i don t believe that was a primary objective of the expac it was merely a side effect of the wow expac development process i find it very hard to believe that all of those raids starting from wrath onward that have bosses who die and exclaim that insert end boss here controls me no longer would have led to this existential moment where death turned out to be a horrifying alternative instead i believe that blizz said okay let s do xxx set piece cool isn t it now how do we get to there that s the thing about these set pieces they only work if they are part of a cohesive whole that extends from expac to expac as part of a long term story that blizz wants to tell right now it certainly seems that blizz is creating these set pieces without any sort of long term plan why would i say that because if the set piece creates some jarring plot holes large enough to fly a zeppelin through then maybe the set piece is the one that needs to change speaking of set pieces that drive expacs or movies from wikipedia org for example in the lead up to mists there was the mana bomb destroying theramore set piece on the face of it a major alliance city so close to the horde capital city would naturally be a military target in an alliance vs horde war however if you played the horde post cataclysm questline in stonetalon mountains which made use of another mega sized bomb the total destruction of theramore makes absolutely no sense as garrosh in an earlier set piece executed the stonetalon horde leader for displaying a lack of honor in slaying non combatants and as everyone knows there are plenty of non combatants in a major alliance city with a sympathetic alliance leader that had in the past sided with orgrimmar over their own faction s potential interests because someone decided edgier is better hmm there s something about that statement that fits right in with the dc universe from metacritic of all places but when set pieces and to a lesser extent the endgame rules the decision making process plot holes happen just ask all those daenerys fans about season 8 of game of thrones from vanity fair or maybe not and that s coming from a guy who had no interest in reading or watching either version george takes maniacal delight in killing off characters so i took a wide pass on any of his writings i only overcame this addiction when i was watching an episode and blurted out loud after a supposed major reveal that was incredibly stupid it was then that i realized bad storylines couldn t keep me engaged forever i d imagine that blizz employees would beg to differ on this point posted by redbeard at 5 23 pm 2 comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest labels lotro musings soap opera star wars swtor wow saturday june 6 2020 saturday morning amusement i saw this on reddit and i was amused mommy where do druids come from i tried chasing down the original and this is actually a screenshot of a screenshot therefore i m not exactly sure who truly created this but as a pencil and paper rpger i found it the sort of d d legalese way of getting out of the price of a fey s pact now if you ll excuse me i have to go drive 6 hours each way to get the rest of my son s dorm stuff as the county in pennsylvania that his university is located opened up and the university is allowing us on campus to go get his gear posted by redbeard at 6 34 am no comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest labels humor rpgs wednesday june 3 2020 the hidden nemesis i ve been pondering something a bit while i ve been working on my fiction and that is how mmos translate things such as death into a game an mmo is a strange beast in its own way by design it is a multiplayer sandbox where people get to experience all sorts of interactions such as quests in their own time sure you can group up but the multiplayer nature of the game means that death for both the baddies and you isn t permanent you die you respawn they die they eventually respawn items such as phasing as implemented in wow with the wrathgate event as well as other mmos version of such phasing is an attempt to alleviate this making it seem like you truly have an impact on the environment is the goal but what i ve been thinking of is something else entirely what is the psychological and physical impact of death on people in an mmo and how did people deal with this in real life when they were drafted given some basic training and then shipped out to go kill people in an mmo we can make light of death given that to the player it s an obstacle to overcome listen to mmo players talk about wiping in raids or instances and it s just no big deal you can even hear bosses express relief at their death meaning that hakkar controls me no longer but nevertheless kill ten rats is just a stone s throw away from kill ten kobolds and then kill ten defias i choose the defias for this because of their origin story which is something that a lot of people would identify with since there are a few people including the mini reds who i know occasionally read this blog who don t know the defias origin story i m going to put this behind a big ol cut spoilers ahead read more posted by redbeard at 9 13 pm 5 comments email this blogthis 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