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tudent i remember people joking in boardgame circles back in the 90s and 00s that mathematicians would play reiner knizia s boardgames for fun when they came home from work reiner was in famous for creating a boardgame with a mathematical premise and a theme that was pasted on to a greater or lesser degree nowadays it wouldn t shock me if they played wow instead that s all relative the paladin got a makeover in tbc the three versions of the shaman play radically different from each other and i cut my teeth on a warlock strictly through pvp in catalcysm which is very different than its vanilla incarnation there are issues with friends lists not updating but i don t know whether it s wow itself or some interference with the addons i have just a note that the only social addon i do have installed is total rp3 which doesn t really interact with friends lists it s several stories from my youth and nobody wants to hear them now except maybe a therapist somebody asked in teldrassil s gen chat which hunter s pet is the best to which people said go to petopia forget opinions go to the source and follow that posted by redbeard at 11 37 am no comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest labels classes fomo operation spread the love wow classic anniversary friday march 11 2022 hope comes in many forms this is a rare occasion where i inserted a jump break to keep this post from overwhelming the main page of the blog just wanted to warn you ahead of time one of the things on my bucket list for wow classic was to experience the class quests as they were originally intended to provide a unique flavor to each class i realized that some classes had it better than others such as the priest and hunter class quests being superior to the rogue class quests but i was fine with that i just wanted to see how things were before cataclysm destroyed all of the unique little quirks that made the old world so good i realize that the mage quests don t have the same level of interest of some of these other class quests but the biggest challenge is trying to do them at level on an underpowered mage for the zone you re in heading into the swamps beyond theramore and brackenwall village searching for tabetha s hut that challenge makes the exploration portion of the game shine but as in just about every other aspect of pre cataclysm wow addons take out all of the guesswork and fun in a search in the unknown if you do it as blizz intended a lot of these quests are more challenging than they seem in a meta created and addon filled aka questie environment says the person who didn t get struck by lightning another metagame issue that impacts whether people do the class quests is are the class quest rewards any good yes even i use seventyupgrades com and its predecessor sixtyupgrades com to determine if my rewards are decent or not for the quest i finished but the difference in my usage versus others is that i don t plan my questing based on upgrades i just quest and if it works out that i can get an upgrade great if not i m not gonna bitch that i should have done some other quest that yielded a better item the class quests i just do because they re class quests they represent a big part of why i play wow classic and not retail i want the flavor of azeroth without it being beaten into me by a system designed to get me to endgame as quickly as possible the class quests are by their nature unique and not a part of a zone story or anything of that sort i choose to do these quests for the same reasons why i play the way i play even though it costs me time to do so because i m not doing any endgame more complex than kara right now and probably won t for the conceivable future unless a friend s saturday night ssc runs start up okay with that as the prologue you probably know where this is going read more posted by redbeard at 10 45 am 15 comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest labels classes fiction tbc classic wow classic wednesday december 11 2019 clothes make the mage one thing about class quests in wow classic is that each class has a different focus for warlocks it s all about the demons and the power they bring for rogues it s about how to use your abilities to not get killed in the field and for mages it s about acquiring the trappings of power your gear that s not to say that mages are stuck using gear they re given in these class quests but they represent the maturation process of the mage as you grow in level and stature the class quests become the equivalent of exams for example your first class quest is the equivalent of getting your entrance papers in order you show up with the letter and you re in then there s the basic gofer test to prove you can follow directions and not ask too many questions which gives you your first real staff the next quest l15 is the go investigate quest showing you have basic mastery of your abilities and you are rewarded with a real mage robe right about here this quest presents you with an item that easily identifies you to all around that you re a mage so you ve joined the club and are no loner a mage in training it doesn t carry any real weight to others who are mages but to the general populace it provides an ooooo moment such as when you finally graduate from basic training in the military and you get your first dress uniform after that you don t get any new class quests until about 10 levels or so later which is when you re sent on another fetch and carry quest but this time it s considerably more dangerous you could potentially solo it but this is more of a social test for the mage you have to put a group together to go achieve the fetch and carry and since a mage has high social standing you have to demonstrate that you can navigate the complex social life in azeroth your reward for this is a better set of robes but you have to assist in getting them tailored you ve moved up the food chain to no longer being a 1st or 2nd year mage but rather a 3rd year mage at least she s no longer a freshman and now cardwyn has just reached the next round of respectability as she just received the class quest for a wand of course that quest means that she has to travel to dustwallow marsh and hunt for a human witch out in the swamp at l30 there s a reason why this quest shows up as beet red in the quest log because you d have to have a full group to run through dustwallow marsh at l30 and even then you re all likely to wipe once you go south past the fork in the road that heads to the barrens it s not that a mage hasn t stumbled across a wand or three out in the wild but this is a class wand which may not be the most powerful wand available to you but is another social cue to others in the profession you know it s kind of strange to approach the class quests like this because until i started writing about cardwyn s journey i never really noticed these details i certainly remember quintalan s two biggest class quests which involved him learning how to rez people l20 and obtain his blood knight tabard l60 the quests involving the blood knight tabard left a bitter taste in my mouth as so much of that questline was driven by revenge against the alliance for abandoning quel thalas in the third war that being said i don t recall much of neve s leveling process and corresponding class quests because she was still at a fairly low level when cataclysm dropped and removed all of the class quests the same with tomakan my draenei paladin with the benefit of hindsight however these mage class quests while optional provide flavor that was lost when wow streamlined leveling questing with cataclysm and subsequent expacs i ve a similar experience now that i ve been playing in a d d 1e campaign the past year or two while newer versions of d d have a better grasp of various actions there s something about the quirkiness surrounding 1e that was lost in 3e and 4e which helps to explain the popularity of the return to basics that d d 5e espouses when everything becomes a mechanic you tend to look at actions in strictly a gaming the system fashion but d d 1e like wow classic there are quests and options and other things that aren t there strictly to propel the plot forward but reflect your toon s interaction and status within azeroth itself i guess an argument could be made that classic was far more open world than subsequent iterations of wow and as the mini reds would put it you re not wrong now if you re excuse me i m going to let cardwyn contemplate her place in the universe while i go work on some fishing and crafting with az i ve finally decided that she does need a mount sooner rather than later for alliance toons in stormwind it s the get the vial filled quest okay it s not that hard to get a group together for the quest at least in the redridge mountains version but you still have to be social enough to pull the group together the more i play classic the more i realize that because i post in lookingforgroup and trade chat i m the one who frequently gets the job of putting a group together there are a lot of people out there who simply passively watch and not get actively involved in the social aspect of putting a group together we just finished the slave lords modules a1 a4 and are starting in on the against the giants modules g1 g3 that s not the only reason by far but it is one that has captured the interest in long time players such as myself posted by redbeard at 9 10 am no comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest labels classes musings wow classic wednesday january 2 2013 how i learned to stop worrying and love those op classes you don t know how much you ll miss something until it s gone yes it s cliche and also the subject of an 80 s power ballad by cinderella but it s also quite true in this case the something i missed was internet access on this past saturday we lost our internet connection which didn t get restored until a few hours ago no this wasn t due to any natural disaster but to mac address problems between our dsl modem and our isp not counting the occasional vacation that was probably the longest time i ve been without internet access in about 20 years in the internet era we ve become used to permanent online access and we reduce ourselves to complaining about first world problems when we don t have it but really is it all that bad no not at all this kind of dovetails right into a favorite complaint of mmo players right after i m bored and pick a faction sucks pick a class is over underpowered you can t enter into a battleground or read gen chat without someone making an observation that monks are soooo op right now or damn warriors are beasts i ve been as guilty as the rest since i saw how locks got revamped compared to their cataclysm incarnation but i don t spend my bg time complaining about which class is the favored class right now others however live for that sort of thing there s an entire cottage industry built around maximizing classes and specs for raiding and pvp so it s not surprising that people complain when they feel that a spec has gotten some unfair love or hate from the devs but really is it that big of a deal unless your toon is being picked on by the op ones is this really that much of a problem that it requires a dev to get out the nerfbat is absolute class equality the goal while a nice idea i don t think class equality should be an overarching design goal you can lose sight of the overall game while trying to make everything equal for everybody i realize that a basic tenet of blizzard s raid design philosophy is bring the player not the class but the reality is that people will bring a specific class for a specific raid boss mechanic that can t be avoided likewise a bg arena team will look for specific specs classes because they bring the best chance at survival tweaking things to promote class balance is tricky and doesn t necessarily work to encourage more classes to take over specific roles i m reminded of pencil and paper rpgs with the common complaint in d d 3 x and it s successor pathfinder is that the spell casters are overpowered in high level campaigns well wizards of the coast decided to fix that in d d 4e to the point of having constant tweaks to different classes via the d d insider subscriptions i was unaware as to just how much tweaking wizards had done until i signed up for ddi much to my surprise wizards had tweaked classes to the point where they d even gone and changed the names of some of the basic classes just to make them sound more in tune with newer class names gone was the cleric in its place was the templar that to me seems to be taking things a wee bit too far while mmos haven t gone down that route just yet it seems that temptation is there after all look at the wholesale changes to talents that each new wow expac brings to the table to say that the mists version of wow s toons bears only superficial resemblance to the vanilla wow version is probably an understatement the classes act in a similar manner but almost everything under the hood is different but why worry about it too much is that particular feral druid that s dancing around you firing off heals the source of your annoyance or is it the class odds are good that we ll hear people say it s the class when it really is the player so maybe it s time to be more specific that it is a player you re complaining about not the class that includes several days without power due to hurricane ike back in 2008 i was perfectly fine thank you very much but the lack of internet meant that we had to periodically go to a free wifi location to check to make sure there weren t any school work e mails that required addressing that warriors crack covers both wow and tor the wow warrior and the tor sith warrior posted by redbeard at 6 00 pm 2 comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest labels battlegrounds classes swtor wow monday december 10 2012 the curse of redbeard strikes again you d think that i d have learned by now i start a toon and that toon s class and or spec gets nerfed it happened with ret although it took cata dropping for it to finally get there it happened with frost again cata s release was the kicker it happened with locks too and now it s happened with rogues you don t notice that rogues got nerfed a bit in mists until you get higher up in level around the 30s that s when a lot of other toons start to get new abilities or their existing abilities take a big leap in utility like say those damn wild imps back in my day when i leveled adelwulf we didn t have no stinking wild imps we warlocks took our lumps from every other class and we liked it and we walked to school barefoot too uphill both ways it s more than a bit disconcerting that in the l30s bgs you can suddenly find yourself fighting 4 5 on 1 due to those wild imps couple that with some improved ai 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