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on showing posts with label patreon show all posts showing posts with label patreon show all posts wednesday february 11 2015 a tale of two models in the past week since i posted about the death of joystiq and the sites massively and wow insider there s been a flurry of activity most notably the relaunch of both massively and wow insider as massively overpowered and blizzard watch both new sites have set up crowdfunding to help support the relaunches with both garnering a lot of attention oh not even in the same league as the attention paid to the oatmeal s exploding kittens card game or rich burlew s order of the stick reprints but they met and exceeded their respective goals very quickly and to be honest the selection of massively op s and blizzard watch s crowdfunding method is a perfect demonstration of know your audience massively op went with kickstarter to provide the seed money for the site and content and will eventually use a combination of ad sales and patreon funding to provide a steady revenue stream given the prevalence of non subscription based mmos in the wider mmo landscape this makes perfect sense to attract the diverse mmo player when your audience prefers b2p and f2p games over the subscription based model you go with a model that replicates the mmo online store as much as possible blizzard watch however decided to go straight up with a patreon funding site to provide an ostensibly steady income again this is perfect because of who they are hoping to attract the wow player who is used to plunking down 15 month to visit azeroth sure there will be online ads too but creating in effect a subscription based model of support demonstrates that they know their audience will not blink twice at another subscription now i suppose the big question out there is whether both sites are sustainable in the long run i believe that both are sustainable not only because there s enough interest out there in keeping both sites running but because each economic model mirrors each site s potential audience the people who believe that the patreon model may eventually bleed subscribers forget that we re talking about wow here sure the initial blast of subs may eventually go down but there will always be the hard core to sustain the site just like the castros in cuba or wow itself people will come and go and predict the end of wow insider as we know it massively op s modus operandi getting the seed money up front to get the operation running works well because they can get everything running without having to worry about keeping subs right away they realize that their core those that will support patreon is going to be smaller than a wow based site so a greater emphasis on initial startup and selling ad space alleviates those concerns what will i do probably not much i m on a tight budget that is frequently beset by seemingly monthly emergencies such as car repairs and new clothes if some money frees up i ll look into sending a few dollars the sites way but i m also likely to look into netflix or hulu as a potential replacement for our satellite service i wish both new sites the best of luck and here s to hoping both succeed beyond their wildest dreams massively op for short a very reduced version of the economic plan from the massively op kickstarter page overheard at our house really you need new pants again just exactly what are you eating kid miracle gro plant food we get our internet connection through our local phone company which is expanding a fioptics network if there were a way to get college basketball my big sports weakness without needing a cable satellite fios package i d jump on board for that reason i m watching sling tv with a great deal of interest eta fixed grammar bugs posted by redbeard at 10 22 pm 6 comments email this blogthis share to x share to facebook share to pinterest labels kickstarter massively patreon wow insider older posts home subscribe to posts atom pages home about parallel context about 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